Original poster: "Gregory Hunter by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <ghunter31014-at-yahoo-dot-com> I made a winder based on an electric ice cream maker motor. Low RPM with plenty of torque. Picked up the ice cream amker for pennies at a garage sale. Have a gander at: http://hot-streamer-dot-com/greg/jig.htm Cheers, ===== Gregory R. Hunter http://hot-streamer-dot-com/greg _