Re: TC discharge... safe or not

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Original poster: "c d by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <vbprg1-at-hotmail-dot-com>

When people refer to the skin effect they are refering to the tendancy of 
high voltage to travel along the outer surface of a wire or channel instead 
of the interior of the wire. Ok Im not a scientist and I have actually only 
recently learned about all of this, but I am truely amazed at how many 
"smart people" take this literally in a human biology sense. The skin of 
your body is NOT being refered to.

If a High Voltage charge gets to you It will travel along the outer surface 
of every channel in your body. That means over your skin And along the 
surface of your blood vessles, along the outer surface of your nerves, and 
even down along the surface of your bones. In this case, Skin means the 
outer structural edge. The human body has lots of substructures on the 
inside, those substructures have lots of outer structural edges for current 
to run along.

Please Look for information on people that have been struck by lightning, 
it is good safety data. Just because we make lightning at home doesnt mean 
its any less dangerous...RF is RF. RF burns nerves, and vaprizes joint 
lubrication, all kinds of seriously usefull internal parts can be damaged.

Was I the only newbie coiler of the year who read all of the safety 
documentation that came with the kit. Um oh yeah there wasnt a kit. :)
You probably didn't know that the coil has to be tuned exactly to the 
specific capacitance of the human being doing the light bulb trick. And 
lots of other safety precautions have to be taken, or so Ive been told. 
Leave the throwing sparks stuff to people like KVA effects, people who can 
do math and measurements accurately enough to survive the process unharmed. 
Remember we are playing with technology that was invented long before human 
safety and RF energy became a concern.

On a less sarcastic note
Happy holidays
be safe
Chris Dowdy



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>Original poster: "Allanh by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" 
><allanh-at-starband-dot-net>
>
>There is an old saying, there are old technicians and there are bold
>technicians, but there are NO old, bold technicians. I always keep that in
>mind, especially when playing with HV.
>
>allan
>
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> >
> > Original poster: "Barton B. Anderson by way of Terry Fritz
><twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <tesla123-at-pacbell-dot-net>
> >
> > Early on, I got a little too close to the sparks running about 5kw or so.
> > I'm not sure if I was actually hit or not, but definitely within inches. I
> > was holding my arms up trying to see if I could feel a charge the nearer
> > and nearer I got to the coil without actually getting hit (NEW COILER
> > STUPIDITY). A day or two later, my arm was in a very deep pain. I would
> > describe the pain as similar to bursitis or arthritis. It was quite
> > annoying, painful (a deep ache), and lasted about a week or so. I have no
> > doubt my arm was subjected to RF currents and did a bit of cooking (by
> > either an unseen/unfelt attached spark or coupled in someway to pass
> > currents through my arm).
> >
> > As coils increase in power, the sparks grow. Often coilers run in their
> > garage or similar environment. How often do we increase spark length just
> > to the point of the sparks not reaching us? Probably too often. Granted,
> > this event performed in my new coiler days was completely and utterly the
> > dumbest thing I've ever done, but running long sparks at high powers very
> > near to "you" is "just as dumb".  I was lucky, you may not be. Leave the
> > longs sparks for safe outdoor running and keep a goodly distance between
> > you and the sparks.
> >
> > Take care,
> > Bart
> >
> > Tesla list wrote:
> >
> > >Original poster: "Jeff W. Parisse by way of Terry Fritz
> > ><twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <jparisse-at-teslacoil-dot-com>
> > >
> > >TCML,
> > >
> > >Original poster: "Steven Ward"
> > > > What happened with the tube coil?
> > >
> > >I will offer my anecdote as long as the science types don't flame me for
> > >offering an anecdote (there are those on this list that went to e-school
> > >and learned that anecdotal evidence is no evidence at all - I disagree).
> > >
> > >I cooked my feet. I often demonstrated the "light bulb" trick to
> > >visiting friends (passed discharge through 15W light bulb to hand;
> > >lighting bulb). After many months I finally correlated the pain in my
> > >feet to the occurrence of the trick. I believe that the current was
> > >passing well within my body and "cooking" my feet on its way to ground
> > >(I would stand with rubber soled shoes on a thick rubber mat). On one
> > >occasion, I was unable to walk for two days; this was no "skin effect",
> > >the pain was deep tissue.
> > >
> > >I have other friends who watch this list who have also had deep muscle
> > >pain after testing the "skin effect".
> > >
> > >
> > >Parisse's law: Fsec > Fpain
> > >
> > >
> > >Jeff W. Parisse
> > >www.teslacoil-dot-com
> > >
> > >