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Re: Regulated Magnet Wire?

Original poster: "David Trimmell by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <davidt-at-pond-dot-net>

Hi all,

Tesla Coiling is not going to be threatened by silly laws aimed at keeping
stupid kids from blowing things up. Thin magenet wire may be esential for
making small letter bombs, but just as with any other esential products
for our industrial society, will still be available. Even after the
Oklahoma City Federal building bombing, Nitro Methane and Ammonium Nitrate
are still readily available, even sold together as binaries. My friend
Daniel sells this stuff by the ton. See:
Up untill two years ago I could by HE and caps without a license for
personal use (like blowing Beaver dams, stumps, etc.), as long as I used
it the same day, ie., don't store it. This is still ok by Federal BATF
regulations, see:
Only the Oregon State Legislature changed the wording making it less clear
Even the FCC will not go after Tesla Coils, unless someone complains...
But this could allways change, Democracy is only as good as the people
who participate.

Regards and Safe & Legal Tesla coiling,

David Trimmell

On Wed, 23 May 2001, Tesla list wrote:

> Original poster: "Christopher Boden by way of Terry Fritz
<twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <chrisboden-at-hotmail-dot-com>
> >Original poster: "Terry Fritz" <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>
> >
> >Hi Chris,
> >
> Hi Boss
> >I searched around the web and FBI/ATF sites for info on this and came up
> >with zero.
> Me too, I also contacted Belden and SuperiorEssex (btw SEW&C has a REALLY 
> cool website).
> >Maybe ask back at the motor shop where the guy heard this from.
> >  Maybe a local politician or something shooting off their mouth over some
> >local incident or something.  There does not seem to be any fact behind it.
> >  I would guess that there was some off-the-cuff comment or editorial in
> >some trade magazine somewhere...  I could call the ATF but I hate to give
> >them a reason to laugh at "my" stupidity :-))
> yeah I'm digging, and I'm going to the show tomorrow (begging for an 
> Oscope), I'll trace the guys source. I believe he may have been talking out 
> his as-(...er....area...yeah, that's what you changed it to...area) in a 
> reason to not cough up a couple hundred$$ in magnet wire for the 
> neighborhood weirdos in the funny car. He's kind of a crotchety old guy, so 
> I have my doubts. Either way, we may have caught a UL in the VERY early 
> stages before it actually became one. I'll have this traced to a reliable, 
> verifyable source tomorrow.
> There is NO POSSIBLE WAY to regulate magnet wire. It's too entrenched in 
> everyday life, it's too important. It's also retarded to try (but that 
> doesn't stop the regulation of several other fun things).
> In a town where I can buy Pyrodex by the case with nothing more than cash, 
> and any reasonably intelligent person could have a field day with a VERY 
> basic knowledge of power distribution, chemistry, and computers can cause 
> serious problems for a city the size of Kzoo I can't see the regulation of 
> Magnet wire.
> >
> >Of course, this "regulation" would fail miserably not only in being
> >impossible, but making the politicians look stupid (we all know how
> >difficult that is :-))...  Reminds me when they wanted to ban electronic
> >solder or pass a law that pi = 3.000... :-)))
> It was 2.9 I think...I have a poster with that somewhere.
> >
> >Bombs can be made out of everything, so restricting everything is a
> >solution :-))  However, getting a regulation with any teeth in it in this
> >case will only be a study in satire.  Were would we report violations to?
> >I know an old couple down the street that have magnet wire in their TV
> >set!! :-))  I can also name about 500 children's toys that contain it!!!
> Or Hard drives, cd players (lens focus), speakers, motors, microwaves, pigs, 
> contactors, amplifiers, radios, telepones....just about ANYHTING with a wire 
> going into it has SOMETHING made with magnet wire (Usually in the forms of 
> transformers).
> It's one heck of an investment commodity.
> >
> >I have shipped magnet wire in the mail without the bomb squad blowing it up
> >(unlike a local guy's drum set :-))  Apparently, a drum in a cardboard box
> >sounds like bomb :-)))).
> I have personally (NON GROUP RELATED, lol) had the Bomb Squad to my house. 
> My roomate called them on me when he (after a fight) remembered that I had 
> some small packets labelled EXPLOSIVE. He freaked out.
> They send out the big blue truck, a pair of really cool guys wrapped in 
> Kevlar and lexan, and evacuated my neighbors (the old lady next door never 
> talked to me again, lol), all to remove a half dozen old railway torpedos. 
> They are small 3x5x.5" orange packets that are placed on the rails as a 
> signalling device (I have spent many summers working for the railroad in my 
> teen years). Nothing more than a serious firecracker.
> I moved shortly thereafter :)
> >
> >Maybe someone else has heard more on this magnet wire regulation thing and
> >who is driving it...?
> >
> I've looked a LOT and found NOTHING, ANYWHERE on it. Nobody knows about it 
> at any of the major manufacturers that I've talked to.
> >I'll will wait before going to the local church's "turn in your old guns
> >day" with a roll of magnet wire.  :-))  The guy with the working 50cal
> >anti-aircraft gun and 10,000 rounds of ammo for it would take all the
> >attention again anyway :-))  That really put that "no questions asked"
> >thing to the test :-))
> You live in one of those 
> northern-central-montana-dakota-kadzinski-mountain-grizzly adams-states 
> don't you Terry? lol
> >
> >
> >They can have my magnet wire when they pry my cold dead finger from the
> >roll!! :-)))
> >
> I can see that on a T-shirt......who wants one, lol
> duck
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