RE: Hood Ornament

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Original poster: "Pete Komen by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <pkomen-at-zianet-dot-com>

Terry,

I like the idea of a hood ornament coil and I agree that grounding problems
could be solved.  I do not like the idea of an energized car body (is that a
body with potential?) as a theft deterrent.  How about a Van de Graff
generator style charging of the auto body using the tires as the belt
(getting off topic)*?  ;--)

Pete Komen

*If it does not involve a Tesla coil, it is off topic.  Since there are far
better theft deterrent systems available, we should probably not worry with
that... - Terry

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 10:12 PM
To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
Subject: RE: Hood Ornament

Original poster: "Terry Fritz" <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>

Hi,

"i" don't think the grounding problem would be that terrible to overcome.
Maybe a drag chain or a little creative tire belting.  Not like we are
talking a giant pig system here...  The car body may do the ground plan
trick just fine with a little thought.  Perhaps a dual coil that really
needs no grounding...

One would almost have to build it all up and do some testing, but I think
the shock off the car body could be fixed as long as it was understood.
Perhaps a little gizmo that would not fire the coil under 15 MPH...  I
would think that a driver that avoided running over the near people with
the car could also avoid shocking people holding onto the car...

Cheers,

        Terry


At 08:58 PM 7/20/2001 -0600, you wrote:
>Hello Jake,
>
>Very bad idea.  Someone walks by and just touches or leans against your car
>(not an unusual action nor unexpected), jumps because of the sudden shock,
>and you are liable (morally and probably legally) for any injury sustained.
>Imagine if it is an old woman or man.  How about the slob who smacks the
>side of your car with the door and promptly gets a shock when putting his
>foot on the ground?  You are liable to find your car smashed up if he can
>figure what zapped him.  I'd be tempted to smash the car myself if I was
>casually zapped (I wouldn't do it, but I would call the police).
>
>It is probably illegal.
>
>Pete Komen
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tesla list [mailto:tesla-at-pupman-dot-com]
>Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 5:00 PM
>To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
>Subject: Re: Hood Ornament
>
>Original poster: "Jake Draper by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>"
><cybermecium2-at-home-dot-com>
>
>Would it be illegal to use that as a theft deterrent*? lol :)
>    -Jake D.
>    cybermecium2-at-home-dot-com
>    http://taradev.cjb-dot-net
>
>
>*The moderator will jump in "here" this time ;-)  Uses of a Tesla coil such
>as a legal theft deterrent are actually on topic (who makes up these rules
>anyway :-)).  However, legalities of stuff sometimes gets to be really
>boring and "I" get tired of them...  Things such as "How can I wire up my
>Tesla coil to kill my mother-in-law?" are obviously off-topic since they
>are asking for advice on how to commit serious crimes...  Maybe I'll try a
>little proactive moderation here :-)) - Terry
>
>
>
>
>-------Original Message-------
>
>From: Tesla list
>Date: Friday, July 20, 2001 03:20:38 PM
>To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
>Subject: Re: Hood Ornament
>
>Original poster: "Terry Fritz" <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>
>
>Oh! Jonathon brings up a good point! While the rest of the metal on the car
>may make somewhat of a ground plane, the whole car could get a significant
>RF
>potential to ground! If the coil were running and you put your foot outside
>on
>the ground, you make get a big surprise =:O Like wise for someone coming up
>and touching the car body...
>
>There may be some unknown "bleeding edge" "details" to be discovered with
>this. Wonder how police radar would like it ;-)
>
>Cheers,
>
>Terry
>
>At 03:44 PM 7/20/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>>
>> For a Ground, you could have a wire, or small chain dragging on the
>ground.
>> My grampa had a shocker made out of a model-T ignition coil, and did that
>for
>>
>> a ground.
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------
>> Jonathon Reinhart
>> hot-streamer-dot-com/jonathon
>
>