Re: Ion Motors / Electrostatic Pendulum

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Original poster: "Christopher Boden by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <chrisboden-at-hotmail-dot-com>

>From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
>Original poster: "Antonio Carlos M. de Queiroz by way of Terry Fritz >The 
>effect is not fundamentally different from what happens if you
>connect the pendulum to a XVIII century electrostatic machine, but
>the power of the NST makes an interesting difference, that is the
>stretching of the arc as the pendulum moves away, as in a Jacob's
>ladder. The pressure of the air heated by the arc appears also to be
>the main force pushing the pendulum, not the unbalance of electrostatic
>forces. Maybe the "Boden arc pendulum"?

Works for me :) Thoug it's just not as cool as Potter-Bucky Diaphram, lol. 
That's been going around the lab for weeks now....

>With two balls it's a quite interesting variation of the Jacob's
>ladder (http://www.coe.ufrj.br/~acmq/pendulum.jpg).
>Would it work with a Tesla coil as power source?
>
>Antonio Carlos M. de Queiroz


That's something we're working on here. I'm VERY interested in practical 
applications of Tesla Coils, mainly so keep me from slapping the 5 people a 
day who invariably ask something like...

Geek: "And this is one of our Tesla Coils, a radio frequency resonant air 
cored transformer that converts the 120 Volts coming from the wall there at 
60 cycles into radio frequency electricity from that toroid there at 
hundreds of thousands of volts. We've been working on these for years 
now......etc etc etc"

Coil: "FIZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZAT"

Pimply Faced Youth:"Yeah...but what is it good for?"

Geek <thinking>: (did you not just see that incredible 7' arc that hit the 
ceiling over there? What about that one right there that chipped a little 
hole in the floor!?)

Geek: "Here.....hold this wire"




I noticed you use only 2 electrodes in your setup. Get another ball and 
place it opposite the pendulum so that they arc at the top (Apogee?) of each 
swing. I have my dendulum swinging a continuous 2' or more. I'm wondering 
the effect if I connect it to the 13.8kV 10kVA Pig :) I'm setting up a 
permeant version of this in a tiny, windowed room.

While nowhere near a dynamic as a Coil, this simple machine is facinateing 
to watch......relaxing......like a Geek version of an aquarium :)

Now....how can the energy of a coil be turned into electromotive force?

Ion motors work, the B.L.P. works...but they are both VERY inefficiant 
devices. 90% of the energy is being wasted as heat/light. I'm NOT trying to 
get into that "Free Energy From the Aether" stuff. I believe in the laws of 
thermodynamics (my room is a textbook exampe of the 2nd). I would just like 
to see something with, perhaps 50% efficiancy. I'm not interested in getting 
out more than I put in or anythinhg like that (Though I'd be happy to see 
someone do it :) Just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it can't), 
and there are a LOT of interesting things we're still learning with coils 
and energy. Unusual breakouts from unpowered coils and such. And I have a 
sneaking suspicion Mr. Wysock has something really big brewing over there on 
the left coast.
I'm quite content to help push along some progress in the lower power side 
of things. Even if we get nothing more than an electronic toy like a better 
ion motor......I happen to love toys. :)

Ideas?



duck




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