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RE: pole pig needed

well I am not a that conserned about safety if you want to take the risk,
well I am not going to go out of my way to stop you, I do know that pcb's
and other like chemicals used in the electronics indistry have cause lots of
problems ( ie: triclor) and well if you think it is not going to harm you,
go play with the transformers with pcb's in them if I find some I will send
them your way, only time will tell if being scared of pcbs as any truth to
it or not....it takes time for the health effects to come about, just look
at what was safe in the past years ( ie: fin-fin ect.). The main word is be
carefull read the facts and make up your own mind on the dangers of
anything... do not trust me or anyone else with your safety.....

-----Original Message-----
From: Tesla List [mailto:tesla-at-pupman-dot-com]
Sent: Friday, February 05, 1999 9:34 PM
To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
Subject: Re: pole pig needed


Original Poster: Brandywine <brandywine-at-writeme-dot-com> 

   I read an article sometime ago regarding the  properties of PCB
(Polychlorinated Biphenyl). This article concluded that the dangerous
nature of
these compounds has been wildly overstated. But even if PCB is dangerous, I
can't imagine  passing up a good pole xfmr simply because it contains it. We
assume the transformer's tank and seals are intact---you may want to avoid
ones
that are rusting piles of junk.
   The bottom-line question is this: What is the probability of significant
exposure to the contents of a Pole xfmr so filled? Well, unless you open the
case, empty the contents into a bath tub, and proceed to immerse yourself
in it
multiple times, you'll probably be ok. You certainly wouldn't want to fill
an
atomizer with some, mist, and inhale deeply.   It is conceivable that an
overheating condition could cause PCB vapor to be released through the
xfmr's
pressure valve. Other's may have comments an this scenario, which still
strikes
me as being unlikely.
   Look, gasoline is fairly dangerous and we regularly drive around with
gallons
of it sloshing around. I don't know, Pole Pigs are like gold. Hard to
imagine
rejecting one because of what are probably minimal dangers. Safety is the #1
Coiling Commandment, but is possible to become irrational about it.

  Check out this site--http://mcni-dot-net/~copa/med/pcbatsdr.htm. The case
study
involves a man who apparently experienced multiple exposures. Here's a
portion:

 "....the patient reveals that while in the basement workshop he frequently
wipes up "dark oily discharge" near a large electrical transformer in the
work
area. The discharge has also resulted in a gummy  residue on tools and other
surfaces. He mentions he sometimes feels dizzy and nauseated after working
in
the basement all day."

   Avoid frequent wipe ups of your oozing xfmr and gummy (presumably) PCB
residues and you'll be ok.

   Seriously though, It's hard to imagine a coiler with PCB "awareness"
exposing
himself in a way that would result in  deleterious PCB effects.

Dave Hartwick
[I should note that I'm generally appalled by a country that's gone
out-of-its
mind with safety consciousness. Environmentalists have succeeded in
producing in
the populace a "Chemical-Phobia". All chemicals are bad--Period.
   Could we return to logic and reason?]



Tesla List wrote:

> Original Poster: Kerry Jarrell <Kerry-at-apprentice-dot-com>
>
> well are those transformers from the 20 or 30's filled with pcbs if so i
do
> not want to get close to them I want kids someday?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tesla List [mailto:tesla-at-pupman-dot-com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 1999 2:20 AM
> To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
> Subject: Re: pole pig needed
>
> Original Poster: "Benjamin W. Bouxsein" <bbouxse-at-comp.uark.edu>
>
> On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Tesla List wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I am in Fayetteville AR, and the local electric company here is willing to
> donate 5 surplus government distribution transformers to my local Tesla
> Coil society.  Each is rated at 50Kv, but if that is too much they have
> many (really cool looking) transformers from the 20s-40s.  They are about
> 5kw-10kw.
>
> If your interested I could give you one of the ones we would get.  I sure
> dont need 5.
>
> Let me know,
> Ben Bouxsein
>
> > Original Poster: "Jeff Corr" <corr-at-enid-dot-com>
> >
> > I just blew my last spare neon, and I'm tired of doing that!
> > If anyone withint 600 miles of Oklahoma has a pig for sale,
> > at least 13.8kv, 3kva pig or higher,  please contact me off the list...
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >