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> Date:          Sun, 2 Mar 1997 15:40:05 -0700 (MST)
> To:            tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
> Subject:       Re: Any big coil designs (fwd)
> From:          Tesla List <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>

> 
> 
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> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 00:55:14 -0700
> From: "DR.RESONANCE" <DR.RESONANCE-at-next-wave-dot-net>
> To: Tesla List <mod1-at-pupman-dot-com>
> Subject: Re: Any big coil designs (fwd)
> 
> TO: Tesla List
> 
> Yes, the fabled coil does exist.  It was constructed in 1984 and sold to a
> very reclusive and very rich person in Australia.  He runs it every year
> for one day for a large private party he throws for all his super rich
> friends in the freighter shipping industry.  Most arrive in private jets
> and many from Europe.
> 
> The written terms of the sale included the fact the location of this
> machine and the owner must remain secret.  I imagine anyone with that much
> money could certainly afford to send a group of hungry lawyers after anyone
> who violated terms of the contract.
> 
> We were flown down there to check it and retune it in 1991 and it is still
> working great.  The original was photographed in 8 mm film format back in
> 1984 but due to the terms of the contract it cannot be publicly shown as
> someone would recognize the terrain and figure out where it was.
> 
> What's the big fuss for -- there is nothing magic or secret about getting a
> spark length twice the length of the secondary coil.  Many coil builders
> have done it, ie, Ed Wingate and Bill Wysock to name a few.  
> 
> As to who has the biggest 6 shooter -- who cares?  Most professional coil
> builders are way beyond trying to see who can make the biggest.  The bigger
> the coil the more expensive it is to operate and store it when it is not
> running.  As for dropped videos and leaflets all over -- why bother?  It is
> time and money poorly spent only to boost ones ego.  
> 
> Our purpose in occassionally checking into Chip's fine net group is to help
> and assist anyone getting into Tesla and Tesla coils.  Our purpose here is
> not to try to prove or disprove anyone's ideas or theories, and certainly
> not to worry about who can build the biggest coil -- after all who really
> cares?  and if they do, they're  wasting a lot of time and money on some
> ego trip.
> 
> Want the biggest 6 shooter in the world to brag about and put it on some
> catalog cover -- fine.  Build it, run it a few times, then pay for the
> storage and discover why you should really have taken that course in
> Business 101.
> 
> End of conversation -- we will not post any more comments or notes on this
> particular subject -- PERIOD!!
> 
> DR.RESONANCE
> 
> 
> 
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> > From: Tesla List <mod1-at-pupman-dot-com>
> > To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
> > Subject: Re: Any big coil designs (fwd)
> > Date: Saturday,March 01,1997 2:10 PM
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 08:23:39 -0500 (EST)
> > From: richard hull <rhull-at-richmond.infi-dot-net>
> > To: Tesla List <mod1-at-pupman-dot-com>
> > Subject: Re: Any big coil designs (fwd)
> > 
> > At 09:12 PM 2/27/97 -0700, you wrote:
> > >
> > >
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> > >Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 16:33:16 -0800
> > >From: Greg Leyh <lod-at-pacbell-dot-net>
> > >To: Tesla List <mod1-at-pupman-dot-com>
> > >Subject: Re: Any big coil designs (fwd)
> > >
> > >Tesla List wrote:
> > >> 
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> > >> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 23:32:09 -0700
> > >> From: "DR.RESONANCE" <DR.RESONANCE-at-next-wave-dot-net>
> > >> To: Tesla List <mod1-at-pupman-dot-com>
> > >> Subject: Re: Any big coil designs (fwd)
> > >> 
> > >> To:  Phil
> > >> 
> > >> You might contact Resonance Research Corp, E11870 Shadylane Rd.,
> Baraboo,
> > >> Wisconsin  53913.  They manufacture large coils with dia. up to 5 feet
> and
> > >> heights up to 40 ft. tall.  This is the coil spec.  Power levels
> around 180
> > >> kva with 70 ft. long sparks.
> > >> 
> > >> They have an open house every fall with some fantastic sparking.
> > >> 
> > >> DR.RESONANCE-at-next-wave-dot-net
> > >
> > >
> > >Wow -- are there any pictures or documentation of the 40 foot, 180kVA
> coil 
> > >in operation?  
> > >
> > >-GL
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >All,
> > 
> > I'll stick my neck out and say this coil is much fabled and doesn't
> exist!!
> > The story behind this goes back a bit. 
> > 
> >  No photos, no videos, no proof.  
> > 
> > If a coil of such dimensions existed, produced the spark claimed, and I
> made
> > it, there would be crap plastered on every wall... free videos to the
> > doubtful ....front page spreads..... I would air drop leaflets over every
> > Teslathon in the land.....I would put a massive image of it running, full
> > tilt, on the cover of my book..... It would be featured promenantly on
> any
> > catalog or literature I distributed..... I would make its image part of
> my
> > corporate logo... and I would never let anyone forget that I was "King of
> > the coilers"!!!! (almost enough said here)
> > 
> >  Don't worry Greg, yours is still the "fairest in the land" and produces
> the
> > biggest sparks I,ve seen....  And I have both photos and lotsa video tape
> of
> > your stuff working.  This fabled system has been earmarked and punctuated
> > over the years by the absence of any proof beyond verbage and heresay.
> > 
> > Richard Hull, TCBOR

To the person writing behind the title "DR. RESONANCE", who claims 
through posts to be a group since statements made are always 
"WE..this, and We...that.", and to this person who represents a company that
builds Tesla coils for profit as a commercial enterprise called Resonance Research 
Corporation, and recognizing that it is public knowledge that the owner of this
company is Mr. Durlin C. Cox.

I put it to you that as it is unlikely that this highly experimental coil, if it exists,
was manufactured on this alleged reclusive rich person's property some 12,000
miles remoted from the builder's shop, and much more likely that it, if it 
exists, would have been built on site at the shop facilities of the 
builder.  Given this it is also highly likely that the builder would have tested the
system before shipping it half way around the globe.  It is an *absolute* that
videotape and/or film and still photos WOULD HAVE BEEN taken during shop
testing of the largest classical Tesla coil to be built to date, even if appropriate
photographing equipment were rare and in its infancy.  This was the case in
Nikola Tesla's day but not applicable now.  Nevertheless, Tesla, recognizing the
historical importance of his own work, went to the trouble to HAVE PHOTOS
TAKEN!  Displaying  such proof publicly of a 40 foot tall Tesla coil could
easily have been done at the U.S. based shop without leaking the name of the
alleged foreign customer or his secretive home location.

I will side with Richard Hull.  Until pictures or videotape or film are shown to
outsiders as real proof, THIS GIANT TESLA COIL SIMPLY DOES NOT
EXIST!

The technical feasibility of such a coil is not an issue to me.  I do not doubt that
such a coil can be built, and the power numbers quoted certainly sound believable
to me based on my own personal experience at this point, but if one were to
build such a device, I don't care who the customer was, the creator would have
pictures of the developmental process and qualification testing, and they would
be using some part of these pictures, even if it was just photos of the streamers
themselves against non-descript black sky, in advertising the clearly 
superior capabilities of their Tesla coil making company.  Period! 

Since Resonance Research Corporation is in the buisness of building Tesla coils
for a living, and has too much to gain by the release of photo proof of 
such an accomplishment,  I do not believe your story either.  I and many 
others on this list are not wide eyed school boys, we are serious 
researchers, somewhat experienced in this field who strive for proof, 
scientific and historical accuracy as naturally as we breath.   

This indeed has absolutely nothing to do with who has the biggest six 
shooter, but certainly would have everything to do with the business 
prestige of the name of the successful builder, if one existed.  This 
is the kind of material at the level where legends are born.

If you did indeed build this fabled machine, you had better cough up 
some pictures immediately, or I fear that you shall look like a fool 
for your claim.  I'm calling your bluff!

After making a statement as bold as you have done on this respected forum you
should expect a great deal of attention and public scrutiny.  You Sir, have just
placed yourself under a magnifying glass.  If your story can be substantiated you
will instantly  become a big star amongst your peers.  If not...well, there's
certainly a self-activated reputation mechanism at work here.  

The true Tesla coil spirit in me wants to discover that you are 
telling the truth.

Convince me,  DR. RESONANCE! 

Robert W. Stephens
Fellow "Professional" Tesla coil builder
Lindsay Scientific Co.
Ontario, Canada






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