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Re: *Tesla list survey form is ready* - free speech issues
From: D.C. Cox[SMTP:DR.RESONANCE-at-next-wave-dot-net]
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 1997 1:34 PM
To: Tesla List
Subject: Re: *Tesla list survey form is ready* - free speech issues
to: Bill Noble
Good points Bill. My only concern is that some "fryee's" lawyer will sue
someone and then if you don't show up for court -- you loose by default.
If you do show up without a lawyer you're probably going to loose anyway,
and if you hire a lawyer you end up spending money to defend your innocent
position. It's not right but as they say -- life goes on. My intent is
posting this concern certainly wasn't to stir up a bees nest but to advise
the database presenter would be wise to at least seek minimum counsel
before proceeding. As someone posted "they probably don't give a rat's
a--" but that's only true until someone gets seriously injured or fried. I
have read several posts on the Tesla List of someone getting shock with a
charged cap or hit with a neon xmfr -- and fortunately survived. One
accidental zap with a pole pig -- just one -- and survival rate is about 0%
or less. If it ever does happen you can bet the insurance people will be
digging deep and filing charges against anyone and everyone they can --
those that can least afford to defend themselves will probably be the big
loosers -- both time (spent out of work and in court) and money wise.
DR.RESONANCE-at-next-wave-dot-net
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> From: Tesla List <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
> To: 'Tesla List' <tesla-at-poodle.pupman-dot-com>
> Subject: RE: *Tesla list survey form is ready* - free speech issues
> Date: Monday, December 01, 1997 11:34 PM
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> From: Bill Noble[SMTP:william_b_noble-at-email.msn-dot-com]
> Reply To: Bill Noble
> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 1997 10:52 AM
> To: Tesla List
> Subject: Re: *Tesla list survey form is ready* - free speech issues
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> I believe that if you were to check the relevant supreme court decisions
-
> it's been too long since I studied them, you would find that this is a
free
> speech issue - of course, anyone can sue for anything - I could sue you
for
> being named Adam - but collecting is another issue. There are some legal
> forums on the net which might offer more definitive advice, but in
general,
> I believe that this is protected speech, and so long as it is not
> intentionaly misleading or intending to harm, there is nothing to worry
> about. Look at the Anarchist's cookbook as an example - or even
scientific
> american, or how about a cooking magazine - what If I burn myself on the
> stove, can I sue Gourmet??? of course I can, but will I collect??
>
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> >
> >From: Adam[SMTP:absmith-at-tiac-dot-net]
> >Sent: Saturday, November 29, 1997 10:41 PM
> >To: Tesla List
> >Subject: Re: *Tesla list survey form is ready*
> >
> >
> >>Example, a young coil builder uses your
> >>information from the database to construct a coil and somehow gets
ahold
> of
> >>a pole transformer to power the unit. He gets fried. His parents get
> paid
> >>by their insurance company for the "loss". Now, guess who the
insurance
> >>company sues for a cool million $$$ or more?
> >....
> >>I think you ideas represent great goodwill and will help many young
coil
> >>builders but would strongly advise against distributing or compiling
any
> >>data that uses more than a 60 ma. source of power. It could come back
to
> >>haunt you.
> >
> >Good point. I will consider requiring a simple password/login for the
> >data on the same page as a thorough disclaimer and an "I understand"
> >button, just to be on the smart and safe side. From the way you have
> >described the risks, it seems that they could affect not just my survey
> >results, but to anyone posting tesla specs and discussions to a forum
> >such as this list, or to the people running the list, or the neon
> >transformer company, or the sign shop...
> >
> >I personally hate the current trend of people suing other
> >people/companies for their own stupid mistakes. That lady with the
> >McDonalds coffee comes to mind... it shouldn't pay to be a pathetic
> >whining idiot.
> >
> >And, of course, anybody hoping to sue me for a million bucks would be
> >sadly dissapointed when I turn out my surplus army pants pockets (all
six
> >of them) :-)
> >
> >-Adam
> >
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