Re: *Tesla list survey form is ready* - free speech issues

From: 	D.C. Cox[SMTP:DR.RESONANCE-at-next-wave-dot-net]
Sent: 	Wednesday, December 03, 1997 1:34 PM
To: 	Tesla List
Subject: 	Re: *Tesla list survey form is ready* - free speech issues

to: Bill Noble

Good points Bill.  My only concern is that some "fryee's" lawyer will sue
someone and then if you don't show up for court -- you loose by default. 
If you do show up without a lawyer you're probably going to loose anyway,
and if you hire a lawyer you end up spending money to defend your innocent
position.  It's not right but as they say -- life goes on.  My intent is
posting this concern certainly wasn't to stir up a bees nest but to advise
the database presenter would be wise to at least seek minimum counsel
before proceeding.  As someone posted "they probably don't give a rat's
a--" but that's only true until someone gets seriously injured or fried.  I
have read several posts on the Tesla List of someone getting shock with a
charged cap or hit with a neon xmfr -- and fortunately survived.  One
accidental zap with a pole pig -- just one -- and survival rate is about 0%
or less.  If it ever does happen you can bet the insurance people will be
digging deep and filing charges against anyone and everyone they can --
those that can least afford to defend themselves will probably be the big
loosers -- both time (spent out of work and in court) and money wise.


> From: Tesla List <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
> To: 'Tesla List' <tesla-at-poodle.pupman-dot-com>
> Subject: RE: *Tesla list survey form is ready* - free speech issues
> Date: Monday, December 01, 1997 11:34 PM
> From: 	Bill Noble[SMTP:william_b_noble-at-email.msn-dot-com]
> Reply To: 	Bill Noble
> Sent: 	Sunday, November 30, 1997 10:52 AM
> To: 	Tesla List
> Subject: 	Re: *Tesla list survey form is ready* - free speech issues
> I believe that if you were to check the relevant supreme court decisions
> it's been too long since I studied them, you would find that this is a
> speech issue - of course, anyone can sue for anything - I could sue you
> being named Adam - but collecting is another issue.  There are some legal
> forums on the net which might offer more definitive advice, but in
> I believe that this is protected speech, and so long as it is not
> intentionaly misleading or intending to harm, there is nothing to worry
> about.  Look at the Anarchist's cookbook as an example - or even
> american, or how about a cooking magazine - what If I burn myself on the
> stove, can I sue Gourmet??? of course I can, but will I collect??
> >
> >From: Adam[SMTP:absmith-at-tiac-dot-net]
> >Sent: Saturday, November 29, 1997 10:41 PM
> >To: Tesla List
> >Subject: Re: *Tesla list survey form is ready*
> >
> >
> >>Example, a young coil builder uses your
> >>information from the database to construct a coil and somehow gets
> of
> >>a pole transformer to power the unit.  He gets fried.  His parents get
> paid
> >>by their insurance company for the "loss".  Now, guess who the
> >>company sues for a cool million $$$ or more?
> >....
> >>I think you ideas represent great goodwill and will help many young
> >>builders but would strongly advise against distributing or compiling
> >>data that uses more than a 60 ma. source of power.  It could come back
> >>haunt you.
> >
> >Good point.  I will consider requiring a simple password/login for the
> >data on the same page as a thorough disclaimer and an "I understand"
> >button, just to be on the smart and safe side.   From the way you have
> >described the risks, it seems that they could affect not just my survey
> >results, but to anyone posting tesla specs and discussions to a forum
> >such as this list, or to the people running the list, or the neon
> >transformer company, or the sign shop...
> >
> >I personally hate the current trend of people suing other
> >people/companies for their own stupid mistakes.  That lady with the
> >McDonalds coffee comes to mind... it shouldn't pay to be a pathetic
> >whining idiot.
> >
> >And, of course, anybody hoping to sue me for a million bucks would be
> >sadly dissapointed when I turn out my surplus army pants pockets (all
> >of them) :-)
> >
> >-Adam
> >
> >Adam Smith
> >absmith-at-tiac-dot-net
> >Epoch, Inc. Digital Music Project
> >
> >www.tiac-dot-net/users/absmith/                 MP3 Demo Tracks Now
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >