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Re: TC Electrostatics

Subject: Re: TC Electrostatics
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 22:05:45 -0800
From: Bert Hickman <bert.hickman-at-aquila-dot-com>
To: tesla-at-poodle.pupman-dot-com
References: <199611261807.LAA05806-at-poodle.pupman-dot-com>

Tesla List wrote:
>
> > > Subject: TC Electrostatics
> > Subject: Re: TC Electrostatics
> > > Subject: TC Electrostatics
>
> >From hullr-at-whitlock-dot-comTue Nov 26 10:28:29 1996
> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 23:25:26 -0800
> From: Richard Hull <hullr-at-whitlock-dot-com>
> To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
> Subject: Re: TC Electrostatics
>
> Tesla List wrote:
> >
> > > Subject: TC Electrostatics
> >
> > >From bert.hickman-at-aquila-dot-comMon Nov 25 10:58:01 1996
> > Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 07:11:30 -0800
> > From: Bert Hickman <bert.hickman-at-aquila-dot-com>
> > To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
> > Subject: Re: TC Electrostatics
> >
> > Tesla List wrote:
> > >
> > > >From rwall-at-ix-dot-netcom-dot-comSun Nov 24 22:34:16 1996
> > > Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 19:40:18 -0800
> > > From: Richard Wayne Wall <rwall-at-ix-dot-netcom-dot-com>
> > > To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
> > > Subject: TC Electrostatics
> > >
> > > 11/23/96
> > >huge snip
>
> > > Conventional EM theory expresses an exponential decay proportional to
> > > 1/R^2.  Conventional EM predicts about 79 volts for the 1.8 kV at 5'
> > > (70V column).
> > >
> > > Clearly, something in addition to EM is taking place in this system.
> > > Without doubt, electrostatics are involved and are produced by the TC.
> > > Are not scalar electromagnetics supposed to follow 1/R attenuation?
> > >
> > > RWW
> >
> > Richard,
> >
> > Nice experiment, Richard!! Conventional EM theory predicts a 1/r^2
> > amplitude decrease for radiated EM energy (i.e., radio frequency AC).
> > The electrostatic voltmeter was measuring a DC potential buildup, which
> > is not expected. However, your results appear to be consistent with
> > earlier DC experiments done by many in this group (although the
> > phenomenon is certainly not well understood as yet). The fact that your
> > measured values scaled as 1/r would be consistent with the way potential
> > (i.e., the magnitude of an electric field in volts/unit distance) scales
> > linearly from a point source (similar to a small sphere). However, its
> > also not clear that this consistency is directly related to the
> > phenomonon!
> >
> > The great mystery is exactly why the high voltage AC at the top of the
> > coil ends up creating a DC potential buildup on the pickup plate which
> > also seems to scale linearly (from a spherical source). There's
> > certainly strong evidence that ions and/or free electrons in the area
> > surrounding the coil are at work. The Richards (and many of us
> > afterwards) have shown that this effect is enhanced by making the
> > "emitting surface" from the coil have a smaller radius. There's also
> > strong empirical evidence that disruptive (but not CW) coils
> > electrostatically "charge up" operators in a similar fashion, so there
> > also appears to be some interaction(s) associated with the higher peaks,
> > relatively low duty cycle, or damped wavetrains. But just how does this
> > all fit together?? This is really interesting stuff!!
> >
> > BTW, could you determine if the plate became positively or negatively
> > charged?
> >
> > Safe coilin' and DC generatin' to ya!
> >
> > -- Bert --
>
> Bert and Richard ,
>
> Our work shows that the collecting electrode takes on negative charge
> regardless!  An ES voltmeter can't make this determination.  An
> electrometer can.  Note that we have recorded DC output even from a
> non-discharging disruptive system.  This output is of a much lower level
> than the discharging system, but there nonetheless!  The electrometer is
> a pivotal instrument in quantitative measurements of such systems.
>
> Richard Hull, TCBOR

Richards,

I can understand how a build-up of negative charge might occur based
upon the higher mobility of free electrons versus ions. I was _really_
stumped about how a positive charge build-up could be occuring! Thanks
for the
additional clarification. Still certainly a lot of mystery about this
phenomenon however...

-- Bert --