RE: Terry's Test - Two Manifestations of Charge

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Original poster: Terry Fritz <teslalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Hi Dave,

I set up some toys:

The digital scope now:
http://hot-streamer.com/temp/DaveTest-54.jpg

A Pearson 10:1 current probe on the ground lead of the ground wire.
http://hot-streamer.com/temp/DaveTest-55.jpg

And I arced it:
http://hot-streamer.com/temp/DaveTest-56.jpg

The scope traces look like this:
http://hot-streamer.com/temp/DaveTest40.gif
http://hot-streamer.com/temp/DaveTest41.gif

Looks like the bright arcs are about 110 amps but it varies a lot.  They 
fire once on every firing of the coil.  In the first picture, you can see 
that the top voltage (yellow-no scale) (picked up by a plane wave antenna) 
is totally drained once the system arcs.

Now I just used the grounded rod:
http://hot-streamer.com/temp/DaveTest-57.jpg

http://hot-streamer.com/temp/DaveTest42.gif
http://hot-streamer.com/temp/DaveTest43.gif

About 80 amp peaks now.

Just a plain arc is about 80 amps.  With the rod the bright one is 110 
amps.  I note that just a single arc case is "middle" bright.  Note how dim 
the toroid to ground arc is in this picture:
http://hot-streamer.com/temp/DaveTest-56.jpg

So It appears that the arc with the rod has higher current than just a 
plain arc.  The arc from the toroid to the rod seems dimmest of all.  The 
rod seems to be picking up some added current that seems to be 
significantly greater greater than the toroid to rod current.

Nothing unexpected...  The bright rod to ground arc is does not seem to be 
a storage of many previous arcs effect.  The two arcs seem to occur at the 
same time, all the time.

Cheers,

        Terry



At 06:30 PM 7/7/2005, Terry Fritz wrote:
> Hi Dave,
>
>
> > But just to set things right, the logic for my statement above is
> > simple.  The capacitor is storing charge and then releasing it in
> > larger, but less frequent breaks.   That's what a capacitor does.
> > In my system of physics, increasing the capacitance also
> > decreases the potential.
>
> I was wondering that too...  Are the big sparks one-for-one with the small 
> ones, or just a big spark say every say tenth time a small one 
> hits...  I'll have to dig through my toy box here to see if I have the 
> stuff to find out...
........