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Re: Discharge impedance of a CW Tesla coil
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To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
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Subject: Re: Discharge impedance of a CW Tesla coil
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From: Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-uswest-dot-net>
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:09:59 -0700
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Approved: twftesla-at-uswest-dot-net
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In-Reply-To: <b5.14ed65d.25fa5647-at-aol-dot-com>
Hi John,
At 08:44 AM 03/10/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>In a message dated 3/10/00 6:41:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
snip..
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>I wouldn't be surprised if the lower resistance seen in the CW coil is due
>to the longer time period during which the sparks exist, which produces
>more intense ionization over a smaller but "fuller" space. Effectively
>it's sort of like a disruptive TC which gives many streamers, but even
>more intense because the sparks are there for a longer percentage of
>time. I suspect that disruptive TC's having multiple streamers will show
>a lower than normal impedance also (but not as low as the CW coils).
>It will be interesting to see if this impedance changes if the coil is pulsed.
>Short pulses (short "on-times") may be needed to appreciably increase
>the streamer Z. If we can increase the Z by pulsing the coil properly,
>we may lengthen the sparks.
Neat idea. The generator does have a rear panel electrical connector for
remote control of it's functions and I know it can be pulsed (I will have
to find the specs on how fast but it is probably well into the kHz). I
don't have a duty cycle oscillator but a 555 timer with a handful of parts
should provide the control signal easily enough. I suppose it could play
music and such off the discharge :-)
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>> I noticed that this coil produces almost no ozone or other noxious fumes in
>> operation. I was very surprised by this! Perhaps all CW coils are ozone
>> free and I just missed that bit of info. Not gassing out the basement
>> during this testing is VERY pleasant as is the quiet discharge!! It is
>> very cool but does not strike the "fear" those big disruptive coil
>> streamers, gaps, and all do...
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>I generally get quite a lot of ozone from my tube coils but I've never really
>done a proper comparison with the disruptive TC's. The power levels
>probably have a lot to do with it. In a small room, running a tube coil
>can be brutal.
Really!!! I wonder why this one is so free of ozone and those nitrous
compound things??? I will look into this more.
>
>Good, let's get those old myths cleared away :)
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>> I was very surprised that at
>> 300 watts I was able to tune the coil with ZERO watts reflected (the
>> generator has a 50 ohm output through about 10 feet of RG-8). My primitive
>> computer models suggested such things but I didn't believe them...
>> Apparently, primary inductance is not at all critical but coupling is...
>> Of course, the RF generator is much more predictable than tubes (at least
>> for me)...
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>A typical tube coil runs half wave rectified, so the various matching
>aspects might not be as good? I'll be interested to hear which coupling
>k value you find to be the best.
I use k=0.15 now because that just how it turned out and the computer said
it would be ok. Now that I know the discharge impedance, the computer can
crank for optimal values. Fortunately K is very easy to adjust.
Cheers,
Terry