Original poster: "Chris Dobson by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla@uswest.net>" <cdobson@microtech.com.au> Hi all, I had success making a toroid out of poly drainage pipe by "welding" the ends together with a soldering iron. I then covered the whole thing with plaster, and when dry sanded it down real smooth, ready for the foil covering. The centre was plywood, cut on the bandsaw. Chris Riana, TAS