Original poster: "Matt Skidmore by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla@uswest.net>" <fox@woozle.org> > http://www.wiretron.com/ they have a nice program on that page that will help calculate weight to length for determining how heavy of a spool you'll need. also has numerous other features. i found the just the weight calculation helpful. 24 awg 3000 ft at about 3.67 pounds, does that sound right? -fox