Re: Avalon, and Lockout for Safety

["David Sharpe" <sccr4us-at-erols-dot-com> (by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-uswest-dot-net>)]

Chris, and Terry

If a railroad right of way "siding" is in the area a used diesel locomotive
could be used.  A typical GP40-2 has a 5MW alternator on it, and the
dash 2 modular electronics means full control of output by three PCB's
run on 48VDC.  What could we do with 600V 3ph at 5MW...

Warning, warning, off topic alert!!!

Regards
Dave Sharpe, TCBOR
Chesterfield, VA. USA

Tesla list wrote:

> Original poster: "Christopher Boden" <chrisboden-at-hotmail-dot-com>
>
> >Original poster: Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-uswest-dot-net>
> >
> >Hi Chris,
> >
> >At 06:53 PM 8/17/00 +0000, you wrote:
> > >ahhhhh, another afternoon exploring and dreaming while the bean counters
> > >cry.....
> > >
> > >A couple HV safety questions....
> > >
> > >1. We found a >250kVA 14.4KV - 2.4KV pad mount transformer and attached
> > >switchgear shed. There is a lockout tag on the door handle, with 2 VERY
> > >faded tags and a padlock. The tags have been there for years, and the
> > >padlock is too far gone for a key to open it. It's obviously from work
> >being
> > >done long before the shutdown, but I have second thoughs about removing
> >it.
> > >It's soo deeply ingrained into my education that you NEVER UNDER ANY
> > >CIRCUMSTANCE REMOVE ANOTHER MANS PADLOCK FROM A LOCKOUT, to do so is
> > >literally attempted manslaughter and just cause for a serious beating if
> > >you're lucky and no-one gets hurt. What should I do?
> >
> >Is the tag on the shed "door"?
>
> Yup
>
> If so, the utility company probably
> >"condemned" something and legally shut the service down.  They should have
> >a record of the circumstances...  There would have been some big fine if
> >one tried to re-energize the circuits or whatever.  I imagine no one cares
> >anymore...  "I" would have electricity to the shed removed (or to the whole
> >place shut down at this time).  That way, when you walk in and find
> >yourself standing in a foot of "odd liquids", you don't have to worry about
> >being electrocuted...  I assume nothing electrical is essential, so it is
> >best just to remove all power to the facility.  Thus avoiding having to
> >call "the boys" out all the time to shut this and that down...
>
> The lock is through a standard 6-hole ring type lockout device. The lockout
> is ty-wrapped to the handle of the door to the switchgear on a dead
> transformer. It's NOT CP property and they wouldn't even touch it.
>
> CP was there today to shutdown everything above 220VAC so that we still have
> LV for lighting and such but don't have the HV in the cages (there are 2
> rooms of exposed HV switchgear, one in the powerplant, 1 in mill-C) I'll
> post pics of these in a week or so.
>
> >
> >Of course, if the tags are on a lever to re-energize the transformer.
> >Cutting the lock and pulling the handle will probably result in instant
> >death!!
>
> poof
>
> >
> > >
> > >2. We found several 2400VAC 250+KVA pigs in a courtyard in the center of
> >4
> > >buildings. They are old Allis Chalmers units and about 5' tall in a bank
> >3,
> > >with another 3 smaller ones off to the side. Are these of any use for a
> > >large coil?
> >
> >Probably not.  Voltage too low...
>
> I'll bet Reinhard would love one :)
>
> >
> > >
> > >Consumers (the power company) came out with 3 guys who spent a lot of
> >time
> > >telling me "That's not our responsibility" and "I have no idea"....I fail
> >to
> > >be impressed. They couldn't find out why anything was working the way it
> > >was, and claimed no rsponsibility for ANYTHING. They also were a little
> > >upset when, while walking OUT of the gas pit (the fenced in area where
> >the
> > >main gas valves are) I was the last one out and spotted 2 seperate leaks
> > >(small ones, but this is a 200psi 6" line) in the fittings. They left
> > >without doing anything about it saying "We'll call it in" I thought the
> >city
> > >building inspector was going to have kittens. :)
> >
> >Have the gas service shut off...  If this place is as unkept as it sounds,
> >just have all these electrical and gas hazards removed for the time being.
> >Get a generator and lights...
>
> Have 5 15KW generators in the budget already :) And they were there to
> shutdown the Gas mains as well. All the big mains for the boilers (6 to 8")
> are off, the little one (2"HVLP) is still on so we can install heaters. I
> SHOULD have left one of the 8" ones on. The meters on the 8"HP lines
> wouldn't ever register the use from the heaters in the powerhouse....lol.
>
> >
msnip...
>
> >
> > >
> > >hmmmmm...perhaps I'll start breeding lab rats. Then I'll put them in
> > >rat-wheels, with belts and pullies spinning a long shaft to a
> > >generator....we'll be off the grid :) I wonder how many rats = 1KVA?
> >
> >A big 1MVA generator is a real option here!!
> >
>
msnip....