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Re: GM coil record
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To: tesla@pupman.com
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Subject: Re: GM coil record
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From: Terry Fritz <twftesla@uswest.net>
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Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 16:40:42 -0600
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Approved: twftesla@uswest.net
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Delivered-To: fixup-tesla@pupman.com@fixme
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In-Reply-To: <002b01bfaae7$056f22c0$60064f89@empyrean.jpl.nasa.gov>
Hi Jim,
A few "hints" are at:
http://users.better.org/tfritz/site/misc/GMHEI.ZIP
This zip file also has the "top secret" schematic with values in it!
Use sharp tungsten points for the gap. I used nails and they burnt quickly.
I also used a needle point on the top terminal and a lightning rod for a
ground to jump the spark.
It is also interesting to note the use of an array of 630V polypropylene
caps operated far above their specs for the primary capacitor. :-)
Bob's data does not apply much. With the core removed, saturation problems
of the steel core are eliminated and it is a true Tesla coil. The 1600V
1.7uF cap has more than 100mJ ;-O) The above data and the details in the post
http://www.pupman.com/listarchives/2000/January/msg00257.html
and should provide all the info needed.
For those that "don't get it"... Long ago I started a project to make a
simple easy to build "beginner's" Tesla coil out of a General Motors HEI
ignition coil. I was successful! Unfortunately too successful... The
coil's high energy and low frequency of operation make it very dangerous!
Definitely NOT a beginner's toy! The 10kHz 92,537 volt output will hit you
like a ton of bricks if you were ever to connect with it. However, the old
typical spark lengths of 6 inches for auto ignition coils operated in the
ludicrous region were far exceeded (I do modify it by removing the steel
core). As far as I know, the 13.25 inch arc I got out of an ignition coil
is by far the furthest ever recorded. In this case, the General Motor's
coil was picked as a standard. Ford and others coils don't count toward
the "GMHEICSLR".
Cheers,
Terry
Still proud holder the coveted GMHEICSLR* at 13.25 inches. :-))
*General Motors High Energy Ignition Coil Spark Length Record
BTW - Unlike other similar, but less important, things like the Stanley Cup
or the America's Cup, the GMHEICSLR has no cup. I'll try to remedy that
situation this weekend! ;-))
At 09:39 AM 04/20/2000 -0700, Jim Lux wrote:
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>Rules of engagement are important... Is that the SGMHEICSLR? (SINGLE
>GM....) or are you claiming a record for any number of HEI coils.
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>I am too lazy to look in the archives, but was that almost 14" spark with a
>cored or de-cored HEI coil? I know you were driving it at somewhat above
>its design primary voltage (heh,heh)...
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>based on some numbers that Bob Wroblewski sent me, at 12Volts, the limiting
>current will be about 3.2 Amps (DC resistance is 3.7 ohms by working from Q
>measurement). With the 3.6 mH inductance, this is a stored energy of a
>feeble 10-20 mJoule, which seems low ( I'd expect 50-100 mJ, stock). As I
>recall, you were pumping a joule or so?
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