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How can I contact: List status and help request (David Thomson) ? Also, how do I subscribe/contact all people in Safety gaps, like (Adam James) ? I'm in the middle of building a 4" large Tesla Coil and I have some questions. Also, if you have suggestions where else I can get my answers, I'm all ears. Thank you very much for doing all the work Ted! Tony Fleming On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 10:04 PM <tesla-request@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Send Tesla mailing list submissions to > tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tesla-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > You can reach the person managing the list at > tesla-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Tesla digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Admin news: You're still subscribed, changes coming > (Gary Gaspar) > 2. Re: Admin news: You're still subscribed, changes coming > (Chip Atkinson) > 3. Re: Admin news: You're still subscribed, changes coming > (Chris Reeland) > 4. Test message (Bert Hickman) > 5. test message to new list (Lux, Jim) > 6. Re: Admin: List status and help request (David Thomson) > 7. Re: Can anyone rent out a tall chainmail suit? (ddraig@xxxxxxxxx) > 8. Indiana swine (shaun) > 9. BP coil (Douglas Johnson) > 10. Safety gaps (Adam James) > 11. Re: Safety gaps (Liberty Rising) > 12. Re: Safety gaps (Gary Lau) > 13. q (shaun) > 14. Re: Safety gaps (Tedd Dillard) > 15. Re: Safety gaps (Adam James) > 16. Re: Safety gaps (Steve White) > 17. Magnetic quenching (Adam James) > 18. Re: Magnetic quenching (jhowson4) > 19. weirdness (Reverend Fuzzy) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 11:04:58 -0800 > From: Gary Gaspar <majrombus@xxxxxxxxx> > To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [TCML] Admin news: You're still subscribed, changes > coming > Message-ID: > <CAHTwgG4= > gxhjQ+iHZ56aj14sT0g22aukGGWFGoEeyZbeZv0Vwg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Ditto that ! > > On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 11:01 AM Stork <stork3264@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Hi Chip, > > > > It's good to have you back at the TCLM helm. You're much appreciated. > > > > Stork > > > > > > > On 03/13/2021 11:38 AM Chip Atkinson <chip@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Greetings all, > > > > > > If you got a message saying you've been unsubscribed, please ignore it. > > > > > > I'm working on bringing up a new list on a cloud provider. This will > > > provide additional features. > > > > > > The subscriber list was ported to the new server. I unsubscribed you > > from > > > the new list so you won't get test messages. Once the new list is up > > and > > > working, I'll resubscribe everyone. > > > > > > Any feedback welcome. > > > > > > Onward and upward! > > > > > > Chip Atkinson > > > Owner, TCML > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Tesla mailing list > > > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > > _______________________________________________ > > Tesla mailing list > > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 12:15:09 -0700 (MST) > From: Chip Atkinson <chip@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [TCML] Admin news: You're still subscribed, changes > coming > Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.21.2103131213220.30643@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > Thanks guys. Let's not forget that the list wouldn't be as good as it is > without the tireless work from our moderation team. I greatly > appreciate their expertise and dedication. Thanks Jim, Gary, and Dave. > > Chip > > On Sat, 13 Mar 2021, Gary Gaspar wrote: > > > Ditto that ! > > > > On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 11:01 AM Stork <stork3264@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> Hi Chip, > >> > >> It's good to have you back at the TCLM helm. You're much appreciated. > >> > >> Stork > >> > >> > >>> On 03/13/2021 11:38 AM Chip Atkinson <chip@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> Greetings all, > >>> > >>> If you got a message saying you've been unsubscribed, please ignore it. > >>> > >>> I'm working on bringing up a new list on a cloud provider. This will > >>> provide additional features. > >>> > >>> The subscriber list was ported to the new server. I unsubscribed you > >> from > >>> the new list so you won't get test messages. Once the new list is up > >> and > >>> working, I'll resubscribe everyone. > >>> > >>> Any feedback welcome. > >>> > >>> Onward and upward! > >>> > >>> Chip Atkinson > >>> Owner, TCML > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Tesla mailing list > >>> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Tesla mailing list > >> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Tesla mailing list > > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 13:18:17 -0600 > From: Chris Reeland <chrisreeland@xxxxxxxxx> > To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [TCML] Admin news: You're still subscribed, changes > coming > Message-ID: > <CAPVCm= > N8mMrsF+eqfZY7T7oYtET_N9+2SYZS5wT1FJ1wDWU0rA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > "Onward and upward!" > > Great hear this! :^) > > Chris Reeland > Ladd Illinois USA > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab? S > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 15:18:48 -0600 > From: Bert Hickman <bert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [TCML] Test message > Message-ID: > <c1b0655c-74ec-4b7e-a083-eb987cf12c1e@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Test message > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 14:53:05 -0800 > From: "Lux, Jim" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [TCML] test message to new list > Message-ID: <0a18b4b5-0a66-954d-7e2a-63ff50c443b3@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > This is a test. It is only a test. If it were a real message, it would > contain more content. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 21:53:10 -0600 > From: David Thomson <aetherwizard@xxxxxxxxx> > To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [TCML] Admin: List status and help request > Message-ID: > <CAD1NOyL1Fg29C= > aaXWaqBndtpbUF4JsC5EWP7GHeH-HN1DPPWg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I have had the blacklisting problem in the past, too. It seems there are > people out in the world looking for ways to trash the Internet like they do > their neighborhood. The same people who practice hacking websites also > practice trashing newsgroups and mailing lists. They learn a way to > "report" spam, and then go around making all kinds of malicious reports. > Some people used to spoof messages from other people's mailing lists, and I > think that has a lot to do with the current black listing efforts. > > The end result is that free and independent news sites and forums are being > herded into the big name social media providers and their platforms, > because they have the AI algorithms to block spam and provide reliability. > > There is a way to fix the email troubles, but it requires some study about > the current header and footer expectations with regard to privacy, > disclaimers, and unsubscribe information. I gave up on it years ago as the > rules keep changing and I have better things to do with my time. If you > have better things to do with your time than be an email technician, then > it is best to just use a big name platform for your services. > > David Thomson > > > > On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 6:55 AM Chip Atkinson <chip@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Greetings remaining few, > > > > Recently pupman.com has gotten blacklisted for spam. The cause of this > > is > > unclear, but the effect is rather severe. It started out that Microsoft > > based > > email providers (Hotmail, outlook, etc.) were blocking me. Now I find > I'm > > on another black list as well. This means that a large portion of > > subscribers are not getting the list. > > > > My plan is to try a forum based approach. It's a different mode of > > operation, but it allows communication without email and I believe also > > still allows those who want it to sign up. > > > > In the mean time, is there anyone who can help me figure out the source > of > > my email troubles? Any help would be appreciated. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Chip Atkinson > > Owner, TCML > > chip@xxxxxxxxxx > > _______________________________________________ > > Tesla mailing list > > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2021 20:19:30 +1100 > From: "ddraig@xxxxxxxxx" <ddraig@xxxxxxxxx> > To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [TCML] Can anyone rent out a tall chainmail suit? > Message-ID: > <CAGfkSy3OPs=UDQv5L5= > cmdxTsSuthULepzh2JmfecmUAgT+avQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi > > On Fri, 12 Mar 2021 at 15:48, Ian Charnas <ian.charnas@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > I'm part of Tesla <http://teslaorchestra.com/> Orchestra > > <http://teslaorchestra.com>. We have a chainmail suit that barely fits > me > > at 5' 6" but we're looking to do a collaboration with a fellow who is 6' > 2" > > > > Does anyone have a tall chainmail suit that they'd be interested in > renting > > out to us briefly? > > > > > Given that mail suits are usually handmade and take many many many many > many months of tedious effort, they are hard to come by. Your best bet is > to look for a local mediaeval re-enactment group. If there's an SCA branch > nearby they might have one. I used to be a re-enactor, but mail was way too > tedious for me. Assuming that you are going to have vast blobs of > electricity washing across it, you might want to mention what you want to > do with it to the person who owns it, as damage might, again, be > super-tedious to repair. > > Given that you did not provide a location uhhhhhhh assuming you are in the > US you might be lucky. > > ddraig > -- > ddraig@xxxxxxxxx ddraigbot / NSO / Connery > ...r.e.t.u.r.n....t.o....t.h.e....s.o.u.r.c.e... > http://fav.me/dqkgpd > <http://tinyurl.com/he-is-right-you-know-jpg> > our aim is wakefulness, our enemy is dreamless sleep > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2021 13:31:42 -0400 > From: "shaun" <snoggle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [TCML] Indiana swine > Message-ID: <002301d718f7$e692fb60$b3b8f220$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Anyone in Indiana or Ohio have a 14.400 pig of any size to sell. Thanks > snoggle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2021 13:58:03 -0400 > From: Douglas Johnson <doug379306@xxxxxxxxx> > To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [TCML] BP coil > Message-ID: > <CAD= > mYbP4MqiodohXWGyiczTmkK7r8uckh5fJit3z+WJT3+Xq1A@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZUCgi4XXyo > This is the aforementioned {24" BP} With the new secondary, 3.5" X 28.5" > AWG28, 10uf/9-30 NST. Runners are no longer a problem. First test was with > toroids covering the first one inch of secondary windings, This video was > with toroids set out 1 inch. Performance improved with the one inch setout. > Distance to end of the Fluorescent tube is 10" > DRJ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2021 13:45:59 -0500 > From: Adam James <adamjamesarmy60@xxxxxxxxx> > To: "tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [TCML] Safety gaps > Message-ID: > <CAO= > aTzOJeNDZaeoWEaYk4VmrsbixU-TNCH448wbXRrxEs40_uQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hello all, > Is there anything better than a simple safety gap, but less than a > terryfilter for SG coils? > AJ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2021 19:42:15 -0400 > From: Liberty Rising <garretsontech@xxxxxxxxx> > To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [TCML] Safety gaps > Message-ID: > < > CAE06n1AuN6pCqxYU4iuCJbVFxzkZqVsdbNdrhpKpCF-AXcf8Jw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > What are you using to power your primary? If its an NST, I strongly > recommend both a Terry filter and a conservatively set safety gap. The cost > of a Terry filter is nominal and and very rewarding to build and learn how > it works. Once one of the secondaries of an NST shorts out it then becomes > a very expensive doorstop. Sorry if thats not the answer you wanted to > hear, but this is just one mans opinion (although it is an opinion based on > regretful past experiences). > > BTW - Anybody out there have a France 15/60 for sale??? I really need > one!!! : ( > > Best!!! > > - Brandon G. > > On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 7:18 PM Adam James <adamjamesarmy60@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > Hello all, > > Is there anything better than a simple safety gap, but less than a > > terryfilter for SG coils? > > AJ > > _______________________________________________ > > Tesla mailing list > > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2021 20:25:25 -0400 > From: Gary Lau <glau1024@xxxxxxxxx> > To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [TCML] Safety gaps > Message-ID: > <CAKV84bbtyzj5tHcWmtxGZ3kMXVP5RkfOC2wMA2KnMYk= > iGeV0g@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > A Terry filter contains three independent circuits and you can choose to > use any or all. I have a web page detailing the how's and why's of > protection circuits - http://www.laushaus.com/tesla/protection.htm > > 1) A 3-terminal safety gap. This is the cheapest of the 3 parts and by > far, is the most important. But to be useful, the gap width must be set to > just wider than the NST open-circuit voltage sparking voltage. If you set > it to where it stops firing when you're running your coil, you've > accomplished nothing. > > 2) An R-C low-pass filter. This filters out VHF transients resulting from > some seldom-discussed spark gap behaviors. Read my web page above for > details. Since the components for an R-C filter are pretty cheap, no > reason not to use it. > > 3) MOV voltage limiters. The MOV's must be carefully chosen to have a > clamping voltage well in excess of the peak cap-charging voltage, but not > so high as to never conduct, even in the face of an over-voltage > (uncontrolled resonant rise) event. If you're going to skimp, this is > probably the place to do it. > > Further questions and discussion - very welcome! > > Regards, Gary Lau > MA, USA > > On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 7:18 PM Adam James <adamjamesarmy60@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > Hello all, > > Is there anything better than a simple safety gap, but less than a > > terryfilter for SG coils? > > AJ > > _______________________________________________ > > Tesla mailing list > > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2021 22:19:09 -0400 > From: "shaun" <snoggle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [TCML] q > Message-ID: <002501d71ad3$ea4067b0$bec13710$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > In javapc the secondary q number for some of the ones I have played with, > the q is 300 to 312. I know the higher the q, the longer it rings. So my > question is, what is a good q number. Is 300 good, 400 better.? Or the > other > way 200 or lower. What are we shooting for. Don't need a long explanation, > just a ball park on the q number. Thanks > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2021 22:41:24 -0400 > From: Tedd Dillard <tedd.dillard@xxxxxxxxx> > To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [TCML] Safety gaps > Message-ID: > <CABebsSkp+44+9dGBM=4wSjSFLZ11e8xXYuysZcoofYwu= > 6U1UA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Gary this all very interesting and also the result of much work on your > part. > What can you say about protection for pole transformers? > Teddy > > On Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 8:25 PM Gary Lau <glau1024@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > A Terry filter contains three independent circuits and you can choose to > > use any or all. I have a web page detailing the how's and why's of > > protection circuits - http://www.laushaus.com/tesla/protection.htm > > > > 1) A 3-terminal safety gap. This is the cheapest of the 3 parts and by > > far, is the most important. But to be useful, the gap width must be set > to > > just wider than the NST open-circuit voltage sparking voltage. If you > set > > it to where it stops firing when you're running your coil, you've > > accomplished nothing. > > > > 2) An R-C low-pass filter. This filters out VHF transients resulting > from > > some seldom-discussed spark gap behaviors. Read my web page above for > > details. Since the components for an R-C filter are pretty cheap, no > > reason not to use it. > > > > 3) MOV voltage limiters. The MOV's must be carefully chosen to have a > > clamping voltage well in excess of the peak cap-charging voltage, but not > > so high as to never conduct, even in the face of an over-voltage > > (uncontrolled resonant rise) event. If you're going to skimp, this is > > probably the place to do it. > > > > Further questions and discussion - very welcome! > > > > Regards, Gary Lau > > MA, USA > > > > On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 7:18 PM Adam James <adamjamesarmy60@xxxxxxxxx> > > wrote: > > > > > Hello all, > > > Is there anything better than a simple safety gap, but less than a > > > terryfilter for SG coils? > > > AJ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Tesla mailing list > > > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tesla mailing list > > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 10:10:45 -0500 > From: Adam James <adamjamesarmy60@xxxxxxxxx> > To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [TCML] Safety gaps > Message-ID: > <CAO=aTzPiZ3hrH5b4XUqhpJv_ZKbLb= > wo2ZGkp6or+m4E7fvqFA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Thank you all for your input. > I have built 4 of the TF's from the design found here> > http://www.hvtesla.com/terry.html< two for myself and two for friends. My > reasoning for the question was that I am building some rather smallish > coils and wondered if there was something between the TF and a plain > safety gap. I may try two safety gaps in line on a coil. > Worst case is that I could acquire a 6KV door stop? > PS, I wish one of you brainiacs would find a way to use the smaller GF > NST's without tearing into it to remove the GF circuit.? > AJ > > On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 11:11 PM Tedd Dillard <tedd.dillard@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > Gary this all very interesting and also the result of much work on your > > part. > > What can you say about protection for pole transformers? > > Teddy > > > > On Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 8:25 PM Gary Lau <glau1024@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > A Terry filter contains three independent circuits and you can choose > to > > > use any or all. I have a web page detailing the how's and why's of > > > protection circuits - http://www.laushaus.com/tesla/protection.htm > > > > > > 1) A 3-terminal safety gap. This is the cheapest of the 3 parts and by > > > far, is the most important. But to be useful, the gap width must be > set > > to > > > just wider than the NST open-circuit voltage sparking voltage. If you > > set > > > it to where it stops firing when you're running your coil, you've > > > accomplished nothing. > > > > > > 2) An R-C low-pass filter. This filters out VHF transients resulting > > from > > > some seldom-discussed spark gap behaviors. Read my web page above for > > > details. Since the components for an R-C filter are pretty cheap, no > > > reason not to use it. > > > > > > 3) MOV voltage limiters. The MOV's must be carefully chosen to have a > > > clamping voltage well in excess of the peak cap-charging voltage, but > not > > > so high as to never conduct, even in the face of an over-voltage > > > (uncontrolled resonant rise) event. If you're going to skimp, this is > > > probably the place to do it. > > > > > > Further questions and discussion - very welcome! > > > > > > Regards, Gary Lau > > > MA, USA > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 7:18 PM Adam James <adamjamesarmy60@xxxxxxxxx> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > Is there anything better than a simple safety gap, but less than a > > > > terryfilter for SG coils? > > > > AJ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Tesla mailing list > > > > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Tesla mailing list > > > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tesla mailing list > > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 00:29:10 -0400 (EDT) > From: Steve White <steve.white1@xxxxxxxxx> > To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [TCML] Safety gaps > Message-ID: > <803220637.1398793.1615955350509.JavaMail.zimbra@xxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > In general, pole transformers shouldn't need any protection. They are > built much more ruggedly than NSTs with typical BIL ratings of around 100 > KV. That being said, I did add a simple RC low pass filter to my 10 KVA > pole transformer just for a little extra insurance. It was very simple to > build and I already had two extra 40 KV doorknob capacitors laying around. > I also have a safety gap. > > I have only heard of two instances of someone damaging a pole transformer > and it wasn't from Tesla coil use. They had attached a large transformer to > the output to be able to draw very long arcs. The high voltage caused by > the resonant rise killed the secondary coil. > > Steve White > Cedar Rapids, Iowa > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tedd Dillard" <tedd.dillard@xxxxxxxxx> > To: "Tesla Coil Mailing List" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 9:41:24 PM > Subject: Re: [TCML] Safety gaps > > Gary this all very interesting and also the result of much work on your > part. > What can you say about protection for pole transformers? > Teddy > > On Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 8:25 PM Gary Lau <glau1024@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > A Terry filter contains three independent circuits and you can choose to > > use any or all. I have a web page detailing the how's and why's of > > protection circuits - http://www.laushaus.com/tesla/protection.htm > > > > 1) A 3-terminal safety gap. This is the cheapest of the 3 parts and by > > far, is the most important. But to be useful, the gap width must be set > to > > just wider than the NST open-circuit voltage sparking voltage. If you > set > > it to where it stops firing when you're running your coil, you've > > accomplished nothing. > > > > 2) An R-C low-pass filter. This filters out VHF transients resulting > from > > some seldom-discussed spark gap behaviors. Read my web page above for > > details. Since the components for an R-C filter are pretty cheap, no > > reason not to use it. > > > > 3) MOV voltage limiters. The MOV's must be carefully chosen to have a > > clamping voltage well in excess of the peak cap-charging voltage, but not > > so high as to never conduct, even in the face of an over-voltage > > (uncontrolled resonant rise) event. If you're going to skimp, this is > > probably the place to do it. > > > > Further questions and discussion - very welcome! > > > > Regards, Gary Lau > > MA, USA > > > > On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 7:18 PM Adam James <adamjamesarmy60@xxxxxxxxx> > > wrote: > > > > > Hello all, > > > Is there anything better than a simple safety gap, but less than a > > > terryfilter for SG coils? > > > AJ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Tesla mailing list > > > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tesla mailing list > > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > > > _______________________________________________ > Tesla mailing list > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 17 > Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 09:41:54 -0500 > From: Adam James <adamjamesarmy60@xxxxxxxxx> > To: "tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [TCML] Magnetic quenching > Message-ID: > <CAO= > aTzOsf_HR7mX6hobvA5kdTg4zFHA2zr5dAxwFvRMUPA1M8g@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Can someone explain magnetic quenching of spark gaps, please > AJ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 18 > Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 12:22:25 -0400 > From: jhowson4 <jhowson4@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [TCML] Magnetic quenching > Message-ID: <mailman.1314.1616295849.11990.tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > It involves the motion of charge carriers thru a magnetic field.?Set it up > so the current path and field are perpendicular and the field pulls the > charge carriers off to the side disrupting the current path and thus > quenching the gap more readily than without a field.?You can look up the > right hand rule and the motion of charged particles in magnetic fields for > more info. Basic E&M physics so should be easy to find info.?This is useful > particularly where the tank current is high and thus the arc is hotter and > self quenching takes longer than you would like. If you get even bigger > moving to a rotary gap is better.?-Jay > -------- Original message --------From: Adam James < > adamjamesarmy60@xxxxxxxxx> Date: 3/19/21 11:31 AM (GMT-05:00) To: " > tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [TCML] Magnetic > quenching Can someone explain magnetic quenching of spark gaps, > pleaseAJ_______________________________________________Tesla mailing > listTesla@tedward.pupman.comhttps://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 19 > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2021 21:24:07 -0500 > From: Reverend Fuzzy <pastor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "Pupman Tesla List [TCML]" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [TCML] weirdness > Message-ID: <095c411b-3ab1-7c5a-9b14-e11375a41686@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Earlier this week, I got a message from the list server that I was now > unsubscribed. > > Attempting to re-subscribe said I was already on the list. > > Did something weird weird happen that I need to know about? > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Tesla mailing list > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Tesla Digest, Vol 159, Issue 4 > ************************************* > _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla