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Hi Shaun, It is possible to take scope measurement of the capacitor voltage, with the timing of the spark gap visible. This is a much more direct way of assessing the timing. The capacitor voltage is difficult to measure directly, but if you use a differential HV probe like the Micsig DP10013, which sells for about 160 $, on the transformer primary, the waveform is almost identical to the capacitor voltage (multiplied by the winding ratio, of course). Then you will see where the timing of the SRSG falls on the charging cycle of the cap. You will also see the capacitor voltage at the firing, so you can see to what extent your charging is optimized. I have simultaneous measurements on my web site of cap voltage and transformer primary voltage waveforms, that shows that the waveforms are virtually identical. But this is only valid for externally ballasted transformers with low leakage inductance, like a pig. For a NST you will only get a meaningless mains waveform, as the ballast inductance is included in the transformer. https://www.sthlmteslacoil.se/measurements.html Regards, Jan Stockholm, Sweden ------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 12:35:00 -0400 From: "shaun" <snoggle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [TCML] Excited Message-ID: <000701d68b7e$2838a770$78a9f650$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" After reading several post about setting the John F phase controller seems many are incorrectly setting the timing to the peak ac mains, as was I. You guys straightened me out and I have restudied Richie B, web site and now know to set the firing to peak of the charging cap, at least that what I understand at the moment. Im pumped to try the correct method out. Have one question, is there a easy way to find the peak of the cap, seen some just going by ear. With only 45 degrees of phase movement could take a bit of lock and unlock, would like to be in the ball park. My initial idea is use a ct to trigger off the primary. Thank any for there insight. ********* _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla