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I have the same motor out of a treadmill, 3hp on a variac to a bridge, smooth. I had a 25KVA pig, but turned out to be shorted. Guess when it fell off the pole. Oh well , one step at a time. -----Original Message----- From: Tesla [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Rieben Sent: September 13, 2020 12:31 PM To: Tesla Coil Mailing List Subject: Re: [TCML] Asynchronous versus synchronous gaps, was Old Post Hi Jan, Yes, thank you for highlight a very important aspect of async SG operation that I failed to mention in my posting. Higher bps rates that are several times the mains frequency, in addition to to generous power, are essential for optimal asynchronous coil operation. ~350 bps seems to be the approximate “sweet spot” for my pole pig powered and async spark gap driven coil. I use a DC permanent magnet motor (from a treadmill, I believe) for my rotary gap drive motor, with a rectified and variac controlled input to affect basically infinite speed control of 0 - 3500 rpm. Since there are 8 flying electrodes on my rotary disc, and the motor is rated for 130 VDC and 3500 rpm, I typically set my speed control variac between 70 and 75 on the dial for the “sweet spot”, with the variac set to deliver 0-120 volts (not 0-140 volts) output. David Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 13, 2020, at 9:58 AM, jan@xxxxxxxx wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tesla [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Rieben > > Sent: September 11, 2020 7:01 AM > > To: Tesla Coil Mailing List > > Subject: Re: [TCML] Old post > > > > Hi Shaun, Steve, > > > > Although synchronous firing (w/LTR tank capacitor) can be quite advantageous > for the rather limited available? power with a typical NST driven spark gap > coil system, from personal experience, I have found the output can be just > as impressive with asynchronous spark gap operation and higher bps ranges w/ > a smaller than resonant tank capacitor with the more copious available power > with PT or pole pig driven spark gap coil systems. And it?s a whole lot > easier! ? > > > > Just my $.02, > > David > > > > > > Hi, > > as has been pointed out, asynchronous gaps are very effective att higher > BPS, but at low BPS synchronous are better. At higher BPS some bangs will be > a bit off in timing, but others will be at the right point. The energy left > in the ballast after less successful bangs will be used in the next bang, so > it all evens out over time. But at one bang per half period, the timing is > very critical and a synchronous gap with phase control is a must. > > > > I have done some measurements and discuss these issues at my web site > https://www.sthlmteslacoil.se/measurements.html > > > > So successful coils could be designed with either type of gap, depending on > the BPS. But more important is the resonant charging concept. A good > resonant design could supply three or four times the energy compared to an > arbitrary design. I discuss these issues also at my web site. > > > > Regards, > > Jan > > Stockholm, Sweden > > _______________________________________________ > Tesla mailing list > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla