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Thank you both, I think I know where to go from here on my current build. My project is a larger bipolar than I have built to date. Secondary is 3.5" dia. X 24" with .015 mag wire. By the time I built the primary it was 6" long and I was getting "runners" on the secondary. I think my fix will be going to a flat spiral primary. Doug On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 12:06 AM jimlux <jimlux@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 10/14/20 6:34 PM, Gary Lau wrote: > > It also needs to be said that highest coupling is not the goal - more is > > not necessarily better. Performance will generally increase with > > increasing coupling, until an ill-defined threshold is reached. > Increasing > > coupling beyond that point will result in what's called "racing sparks" - > > sparks across portions of the surface of the secondary coil that can > > quickly destroy the secondary. You need to design the coil in such a way > > that the distance between primary and secondary can be experimentally > > adjusted to vary the coupling, typically by raising the secondary. For > > most coils, using a flat spiral primary provides adequate coupling when > the > > plane of the primary is near the bottom end of the secondary. > > > > ANd the flat primary also serves as a sort of counterpoise to make the E > field uniform between topload and primary. > > Go back in the archives and you'll see all sorts of primaries, > solenoids, inverted cones (I did that one), and flat spirals. > > The advent of modeling tools (like Inca and JavaTC) that could > *calculate* coupling and fields pretty much drove the "make it flat" - > except for ones requiring high coupling (DRSSTC, for instance), where > solenoid primaries are popular. > > There's not much you can do with a conical primary that you can't do > with a flat or solenoid, with some control of the spacing. > _______________________________________________ > Tesla mailing list > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla