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You can also start with these tubes and then you can always change to much more powerful tubes later. The current coil that I am messing with started with a single 811(not A) tube, oh I think about 30+ years ago. Have tried several tubes going bigger over the years on it, off and on, as I gathered up more components slowly over time. Or go ahead and get a big fella from the get go. You will have to decide. I would guess 10"-12" with these also like John says. This would be non-pulsing. I also prefer more powerful tubes also now. Chris Sent from my LG V20 _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla