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Hi Steve, For me, yes I saw improvement. That's why I kept working up. I do this in conjunction with adding capacitance to the tank. I put a bigger toroid on first and run coil and verify that the arcs get spoiled, fatter, and shorter. You want to see this. Then you need to add inductance and/or capacitance to the tank to then "straighten, stretch" the arcs out longer. Amp draw should also go up also. Most of the time, not always, just like John, I have better results adding capacitance also. Since you only have 2 turns left to add which I think is not enough for a bigger toroid. I would max out your turns, and then add capacitance changes only. You may need to get and expand your selection of caps for fine tuning. Me, I have pretty large and wide selection of mica caps to try. You should be fine on your type of caps, sounds like you need some more selection to have on hand. Or you can try by what your saying by what sounds like a too big of a cap and then back off on inductance turns. Sounds like the easiest for you to try currently. Then there are the other things that can be adjusted and tried also of course. Me, I am able to do very extended run times also. I have added several fans over time, all over, to extend this even further. Overall pulsing is so great :-) Okay, going to get messing with my coil and see if I can break 30", just 1" shy ;-) Hopefully, later today, I will post some pictures and more details of what is all going on with this coil. Chris Sent from my LG V20 _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla