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The still unanswered question is why use the welder at minimum reactance (shorted) rather than at maximum reactance (open)? On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 10:14 AM Dave Leddon <dave@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I purchased an inexpensive arc welder from Sears > which had a retractable transformer core to > adjust the current. With the welder output > shorted I could adjust the pole pig current from 18 to 60 amps. > > Dave > > At 07:21 PM 6/5/2018, you wrote: > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64Dan, > > > >A shorted welding transformer stores energy in > >an expanding magnetic field which is then > >returned to the power circuit as the sine wave > >of the input power waveform decays, kinda like > >compressing a spring. When you relieve the > >pressure on the spring, the spring pushes the energy back into your > system. > > > >If you use a resistor, the resistor converts the > >energy to heat, which is lost, and not returned > >to the system. This is much less efficient. It > >would provide ballasting, at the expense of a > >lot of waste heat. Any resistance in the > >ballast components will generate waste heat, so > >you want to minimize that as much as possible. > > > >If you want an easily and infinitely adjustable > >ballast, you would use a saturable > >reactor. This is a special transformer which > >would perform the same function as a shorted > >welder, but in which the permitted current is > >controllable by a small low voltage DC current > >applied to a special set of control windings. > > > >Saturable reactors provide nice control for TC > >systems, but ones big enough to effectively > >control a pole pig can easily weigh half a ton, > >and are usually very expensive, unless you can find a surplus unit for > cheap. > > > >Last spring, I bought an assembly nearly > >identical to the following one for $130 for the > >copper scrap value, but it cost me $580 in > >shipping fees to get it to my friend's factory > >shipping dock. "Some day" I hope to build a coil > >big enough to put it to effective use. > > > > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/40-KVA-20-AMP-460-VOLT-HUNTERDON-SATURABLE-CORE-REACTOR-TRANSFORMER-S-1207-1/292572873068 > > > >The reactor that was in it looks just like the > >following one, but is mine "only" 52 KVA > >rated. I think there is a typo in the > >listing. The rating should be more like 60 KVA, > >not 600. I would speculate that a 600 KVA core > >would likely weigh several tons. > > > > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Hunterdon-Saturable-Core-Reactor-Transformer-600KVA-60Hz-WE-1097-R-C98R2/282780054079 > > > >(I have no connection to either seller.) > > > >You can buy a lot of welders to short out for $4,800 plus shipping. > > > >To understand saturable reactors, look up "magnetic amplifiers" in > Wikipedia. > > > >Dave > > > > > >On 6/5/2018 11:22 AM, Daniel Kunkel wrote: > >>As already pointed out, for a current limiting ballast transformer, the > >>secondary coil will be shorted out, and the primary will be in series > with > >HØY‚€£â†÷vWfW"Â’†fR&VVâvöæFW ing what would happen if you put a (variable) > >>resistor on the secondary side of the ballast transformer (instead of a > >>dead short). I wonder if this would give you some degree of variable > >Ý\œ™[ [Z][™Âg&öÒÆÂ×’&VF ng, it seems like the best current > >[Z][™È\Ù\È“Õ@nductance and resistance...so I wonder if resistance > >Àcated in this location would work. > >‘[‚‚—×××××××××××××À_________________________________ > >Tesla mailing list > >Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > > _______________________________________________ > Tesla mailing list > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla