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Hi Dave, I am pretty positive I have figured out your poor performing coil. You need to remove the microwave caps and the microwave diode from the MOT. You need to take the Level Shifter off and run just the AC from the MOT. And then tune in the coil for this of course... Let me explain... A few days ago I did an experiment on a very recently rebuilt coil, built originally 30+ years ago. Never really worked at all after several tries by my Dad and me. So I decided to dust it off and try again. Changed a lot of things, not going into all details...but it is basically an old school very tall skinny "candle stick" coil. Changed to 2 old 811 tubes with a MOT using AC normally. And all Mica Caps. (Just a note, these tubes are 811's, not 811A's. They are somewhat rare precursors. It is what I had on hand. They are a little different.) Got it tunned up and running pretty good. 10.5" arcs. I'm very happy for a candle stick. So I started to think about your 810 coil again. Realized finally that you said your running a Level Shifter, but not Pulsing coil yet. This is the problem. I watched your 2 videos again to verify. I do Pulse another coil with LS. I have never run a coil LS alone, so I decided to try on this coil with no other changes at all. VERY POOR. Milliamps climbed extremely fast as I was turning up the variac. Got to max Ma. for 2- 811's very quickly with way less voltage than before. Just 3-4" arcs now!!! Ran just like yours in the video!!! Everything getting hot also!!! Could not run very long!!! Thought about this some and realized why. I'm going to put links of several pictures and a video. Going to link a PDF also of a paper I drew up to explain what is going on, with a few other thoughts also on it. Picture of coil. https://photos.app.goo.gl/dAeNMo7Iomu4NROq1 Running good picture and video. https://photos.app.goo.gl/qegrgGVnaUDxaGLN2 https://youtu.be/Nwm0inAeUDE Running poor picture. https://photos.app.goo.gl/3c8LaJuC4SHsTbYg1 PDF explaining why. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mTwUc9C4_EjuueEeQl9WSJrYiyK HAnro/view?usp=drivesdk Chris Some thoughts and/or corrections are welcome if I am wrong on any thoughts on this. Sent from my LG V20 _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla