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Great suggestions, all! I do have a mocked up Jacob's ladder which I intended to add in the show, but didn't think of adding the flames into it; will try that too! These boards several of you pointed to on eBay do look promising indeed, and am ordering one for a test run..... eBay lists many providers, and one of them provides an I/O hookup diagram, and another a few statements as: 1.: Drive arc extinguishing part 12V~16V direct current, 2. The full bridge should also be DC, voltage: 48V arc 3cm, 311V arc 15~20cm 3. Can music, 3.5mm interface, music square wave music. But looking at the pictures in the offerings, the boards appear to include a row of what looks like four heat sinked components that I take as being MOSFETS or IGBTs or some such which would imply on-board rectification (one diagram actually labels them as "full bridge"), yet the statement #2 above implies (at least to me) that it wants a high voltage DC input? Would it be safe for me to assume in translating the pigeon English (I wish my Chinese were as good(o:) I could feed this board with AC, say, a Variac until I got what I wanted working? Also, could any of you guide me as to how I would start to build the rest.... would I start with 1/4" tubing for a primary (# turns, spacing?), then a secondary coil (diameter? height? # of turns of what gauge wire?) and the topload for the prototype perhaps dryer vent? I have looked at JavaTC quite a while back, but if memory serves me, I need at least one parameter to start with, which, newbie doesn't have yet (sorry, duh). But I'm going to learn! P.S. Aligned with other TCML discussions, I have a couple youngsters (mid-20's) excited about helping me with these projects, so we can "pay it forward" and get the new generations involved I hope. They and others are always welcome in my shop. Thx again, all! Dirk Las Vegas, NV On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 10:58 AM albert via Tesla <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Further to these units. They have a built in interuptor which you could > set to produce notes > > of various frequencies on the scale. (using the pre set pot) > Alternately input sq wave music. > > There is a change over switch to select either with an audio i/p jack. > > The earth lead from the bottom of the sec coil is threaded a few times > through that small feedback coil core > > and thence to earth. If it doesn't spark the lead is reversed. > > > On 29/12/2018 16:47, jimlux wrote: > > On 12/29/18 8:05 AM, albert via Tesla wrote: > >> > >> Instead of building twelve SSTC's how about these pre built ones? > >> All you need extra is the primary and > >> > >> secondary coils and power supply. > >> > >> I doubt if you could build a small SSTC for less than the price of > >> these. > >> > >> > https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12v-SSTC-integrated-drive-board-finished-solid-state-Tesla-coil-of-the-first-TC/183419500594?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 > >> > > > > > > It's hard to know what that unit is, exactly.. is it a 12V in device? > > or is that the power to the drive electronics, and the actual coil > > runs off line voltage (or higher). Seems like it would be low power > > if 12V. > > > > And then there's stuff like this: > > > https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/miniSSTC-Integrated-Driver-Board-Integrated-Tesla-Coil-SSTC-Driver-Board/273234291283 > > > > > > which at least (from the pictures) looks like it will drive something > > higher than 12V. Not much other info, but I suspect a google for > > miniSSTC will turn up the original design. (Dan from Eastern Voltage > > Research?) > > > > and there's bunches of these kind of things: > > > https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1800W-ZVS-Induction-Heating-Board-Module-Flyback-Driver-Heater-Tesla-Coil-Fan/253812671224 > > > > > > but again, not a huge amount of information. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> On 29/12/2018 04:32, Dirk Schmidhofer wrote: > >>> Greetings TCML'ers! > >>> > >>> I can't exactly declare myself a long-timer, but have been lurking > >>> the list > >>> for several years. I haven't built my first TC yet, but am on the > >>> verge. > >>> I was wondering if there might be a reliable design I can sort of mass > >>> produce for an art project I'm working on. I've been making various > >>> art > >>> installation contributions to Burning Man for a dozen years now, and > >>> I have > >>> the prototype for what I call the Kosmik Kalliope (Kosmik Dust is my > >>> Burning Man theme camp, so please pardon the awful spelling abuse). > >>> The > >>> Kalliope currently is a flame effect piece; please see the prototype 13 > >>> second video here: > >>> > >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8sDM2_J9J8&feature=youtu.be > >>> > >>> I have a custom microprocessor that receives MIDI and switches the > >>> solenoid > >>> valves accordingly, 12 pipes for the 12 notes of the chromatic scale > >>> (it > >>> rolls over and plays regardless of the octave a la MOD 12 calc.). I've > >>> fashioned a custom igniter so I don't need pilot lights. > >>> > >>> I am licensed by the Nevada State Fire Marshal to operate flame > >>> effects as > >>> well as a pyrotechnics license and I do commercial stuff but my true > >>> love > >>> is to take art to Burning Man. (o: > >>> > >>> I've been gathering parts for awhile now (NSTs, MMC and Terry Filter > >>> parts, > >>> etc.) and I know it is highly recommended to build a SGTC before > >>> tackling > >>> the solid state stuff, but I've also finished building several of Eric > >>> Goodchild's UD2.5 boards I've had laying around for awhile because > >>> sometimes I don't work linearly (o: > >>> > >>> My question: (Sorry for long windedness); I would like to build 12 > >>> relatively small Tesla Coils (or 24), and was thinking they might be > >>> static > >>> spark gap units that could be displayed either above or alongside my > >>> Kosmik > >>> Kalliope pipes and switch them on and off reliably, like I do the flame > >>> effects? Not looking for massive streamers (6-12"?), but I would > >>> like them > >>> noticed by the audience. > >>> > >>> Is there an available design out there that might meet my > >>> intentions, or is > >>> this just a crazy idea, whereby the things will strike my stuff and > >>> blow up > >>> all my other electronics?? (o: They would of course be on stands > >>> far away > >>> from audiences. > >>> > >>> I would like to switch them quickly but I'm not interested at this > >>> time in > >>> actually doing the MIDI modulation; just turn them on and off, as > >>> there's > >>> lots of other music playing already. > >>> > >>> I have ten Allanson NSTs (12K 30mA) that are unfortunately GFI and > >>> potted, > >>> but perhaps could use them the way a previous TCML contributor used > >>> them > >>> with that resistor network he described? > >>> > >>> I also have three other NSTs (nonGFI) larger and smaller. > >>> > >>> Or perhaps MOT TCs would be the way to go? > >>> > >>> Or a simpler solid state design whereby I could power them all off one > >>> large power supply? > >>> > >>> I have a modest machine shop with lathe, 2 hp CNC mill and 3D > >>> printer so > >>> I'm not afraid of fabricating. > >>> > >>> I've toyed with the thought of designing, but as a first-timer, I > >>> seem to > >>> get stumped with a chicken or the egg thing as far as where do I start? > >>> > >>> Thanks for all your ideas! > >>> > >>> Dirk Schmidhofer > >>> Las Vegas, NV > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Tesla mailing list > >>> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Tesla mailing list > >> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tesla mailing list > > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > _______________________________________________ > Tesla mailing list > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla