Something wrong with that Teslafest in Buffalo. Only one picture of a coil
and everything else is party pics?
~Dan
Kansas City area
On Sun, Aug 26, 2018, 8:14 PM Brian Decosta <briandecosta38305@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> This is useful. I’ve never been to a Tesla Fest would love to go to one.
> The Niagara one sounds interesting bc of Nikola Tesla’s hydro plant and
> museum and also the annual Tesla event.
>
> Here is a useful site I found from searching the internet.
>
> https://www.teslafest.org/
>
> Does anyone know of any Teslafests or Teslathons in Tennessee?
>
> Brian
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 26, 2018, at 5:04 PM, Steve White <steve.white1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Miles,
> >
> > I drove from Cedar Rapids, Iowa to Chillicothe for Roger's Teslafest.
> Atlanta is about the same distance. The drive isn't bad. These events are
> so rare that some extra drive time is worth it for the show and to meet
> some great people. So next year, make it a 3-day weekend or 2 long days.
> >
> > Steve White
> > Cedar Rapids, Iowa
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "miles waldron" <mileswaldron@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2018 11:41:05 AM
> > Subject: [TCML] teslafest wanted near atlanta
> >
> > Man, I need a TeslaFest somewhere near Atlanta !!
> >
> > Miles
> >
> > Atlanta, Georgia
> >
> >
> >> On 8/26/2018 12:52 AM, hooverrl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >> TeslaFest 2018 - Chillicothe! Thanks Roger, we all had a great time.
> >> Enjoyed your historical commentary on your numerous artifacts from the
> past.
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Tesla [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> >> tesla-request@xxxxxxxxxx
> >> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 6:47 PM
> >> To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: Tesla Digest, Vol 129, Issue 5
> >>
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> >>
> >> Today's Topics:
> >>
> >> 1. Re: Teslafest appreciation (Forrest Mohrman)
> >> 2. Re: Max Voltage Gain In a Tertiary Coil (Daniel Kunkel)
> >> 3. Watch your Caps! (phil)
> >> 4. Re: Watch your Caps! (Steve White)
> >> 5. Re: Max Voltage Gain In a Tertiary Coil (Antonio Queiroz)
> >> 6. Re: Suggestion for postings (robert massa)
> >> 7. Re: Watch your Caps! (Mr Nico)
> >> 8. Re: Suggestion for postings (Chris Reeland)
> >> 9. Re: What to call "sparks"? (Chris Reeland)
> >> 10. Re: What to call "sparks"? (Carl Noggle)
> >> 11. Re: What to call "sparks"? (doug)
> >> 12. Re: What to call "sparks"? (Ed)
> >> 13. Re: What to call "sparks"? (Bart Anderson)
> >> 14. Javatc 13.3 (Bart Anderson)
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 11:07:53 -0400
> >> From: Forrest Mohrman <forrestmohrman@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Subject: Re: [TCML] Teslafest appreciation
> >> Message-ID:
> >> <CALyiZitAquFECOum_h5AWP9zt7UqHOK36ujTPCSTW-TASGY3-g@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>
> >> I was not able to attend this year. I miss this local event as I had my
> >> big solid state coil there last year. Are there any pictures or video
> >> available?
> >>
> >> Bud Mohrman
> >>
> >>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 7:25 PM Roger Smith <rwsmith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 8/18/2018 10:26 PM, Steve White wrote:
> >>>> I would like to thank Roger in Ohio for hosting the Teslafest at his
> >>> very nice indoor facility. It was a long drive for me and my wife but
> well
> >>> worth the trip. There were about 25 attendees that I saw. I met some
> great
> >>> people. Roger had his great equipment there including his very
> impressive
> >>> big SGTC and his big VTTC. The big SGTC looked to produce at least 15
> foot
> >>> discharges. The big VTTC produced very impressive bushes of sparks
> about 5
> >>> feet in height drawing about 75 amps and occasionally tripping the main
> >>> breaker. Some attendees brought their equipment with them including a
> >> small
> >>> VTTC, a 833A VTTC, a medium quad NST powered SGTC, two different
> DRSSTCs,
> >>> two different tesla coil spark guns, a vacuum chamber with electrodes,
> a
> >>> Marx generator, and a tesla coil in a bottle (ask Roger). I sincerely
> hope
> >>> that Roger continues this wonderful tradition because I look forward to
> >>> next year. I saw a lot of pictures and video being taken. I hope those
> can
> >>> be published on-line somewhere
> >>>> where everyone can see them.
> >>>>
> >>>> Steve
> >>>> Cedar Rapids, Iowa
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Tesla mailing list
> >>>> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla
> >>>>
> >>> Thanks Steve and thanks to everyone who participated. I intend to
> keep
> >>> having these annual events.
> >>>
> >>> Roger
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Tesla mailing list
> >>> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla
> >>>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 09:12:56 -0500
> >> From: Daniel Kunkel <dankunkel@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Subject: Re: [TCML] Max Voltage Gain In a Tertiary Coil
> >> Message-ID:
> >> <CAA7NYCdwn=XYEAhxhwu0bsERR2PtenXwpCauRHNrQDmVHuaXTw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>
> >> Antonio,
> >> I understand the first part of what you are saying with the energy
> transfer
> >> (which I understand to come from the very tight coupling of L1 and L2).
> >>
> >> However, when we look back several decades at what Tesla Coil hobbyist
> did
> >> from the time of Tesla's death until the 70's or 80's, many of the
> >> secondary coils had horrible aspect ratios (small diameter and VERY
> tall,
> >> which we now call candlesticks). The result was poor performance, and
> were
> >> designed completely opposite of Tesla's CSN coils with with aspect
> ratios
> >> of 1:1 or 1:2. Today we seem to have settle on 1:3 - 1:4 for our coils.
> Is
> >> that better, or a compromise?
> >>
> >> But to your statement, " Without losses considered the maximum output
> >> voltage with two or three coils, with the same primary capacitor and
> total
> >> load capacitance, is the same." I have to ask, if that is true, then how
> >> many turns of wire is needed on the final resonator (L2 or L3)? How much
> >> inductance is needed in any coil to produce high voltage? As a
> community I
> >> think we have settled on 1,000 turns (+/- 200 turns).
> >>
> >> So if we continue to stick to these aspect ratios and parameters and
> employ
> >> them in the typical magnifier setup, then yes, I would expect
> performance
> >> to be similar. But I believe with magnifiers (L1, L2, and L3) can and
> >> SHOULD be constructed to 1:1 aspect ratios. I realize you have a LOT of
> >> real world magnifier experience...I hope to get there too some day!
> >>
> >> Here is an interesting video. That green pole on the left is the
> secondary!
> >> Now I believe this one was constructed for this experiment and not made
> to
> >> produce the normal streamers...but still interesting.
> >> https://youtu.be/A6Tc6Hj4cas?t=1m37s
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> ~Dan
> >> Kansas City area
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 6:57 AM, Antonio Queiroz <
> acmdequeiroz@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Magnifiers may allow faster energy transfer, reducing the time when
> >> current
> >>> is flowing in the lossy spark gap. With reduced energy loss the energy
> >>> ending in the top terminal increases. Without losses considered the
> >> maximum
> >>> output voltage with two or three coils, with the same primary capacitor
> >> and
> >>> total load capacitance, is the same.
> >>>
> >>> Antonio Carlos M. de Queiroz
> >>> Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
> >>>
> >>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018, 9:56 AM Daniel Kunkel <dankunkel@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> When thinking about a 3 coil system, where the third coil is free to
> >>>> resonate, what is the best way to maximize the voltage gain?
> >>>>
> >>>> If we follow the Colorado Springs oscillator, we would use coils with
> an
> >>>> aspect ratio of 1:1 with a large space between the winding. IIRC the
> >>> space
> >>>> winding Tesla did was to reduce inter-turn arcing (due to the poor
> >>>> insulation qualities of the gutta-percha insulation), as well as an
> >>> attempt
> >>>> to reduce the self capacitance of the coil.
> >>>>
> >>>> So as best I can theorize, you should:
> >>>> -Identify what inductance and top load you need to achieve the desired
> >>>> frequency
> >>>>
> >>>> Then:
> >>>> -minimize the self capacitance of the coil
> >>>> -minimize the DC ohms of the coil
> >>>>
> >>>> So to that end, are they any easy to use and accurate calculators that
> >>> are
> >>>> available? JavaTC I believe is accurate, but the user interface is
> >>> lacking
> >>>> and not really easy to make these changes to aspect ratio, wire
> >> diameter,
> >>>> and spacing easy or quick. DeepFriedNeon is great, but I am unsure of
> >> its
> >>>> accuracy.
> >>>>
> >>>> ~Dan
> >>>> Kansas City area
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Tesla mailing list
> >>>> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla
> >>>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Tesla mailing list
> >>> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla
> >>>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 3
> >> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 14:11:30 +0100
> >> From: phil <pip@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Subject: [TCML] Watch your Caps!
> >> Message-ID: <646f71ff-2df8-47e9-ccb2-dbb7d88ce863@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> >>
> >>
> >> All,
> >> The Cornell-Dubilier's 942C20P15K-F capacitors have long become
> >> something of a stalwart for Tesla Coil use, however they are not
> totally
> >> immune to damage!
> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/33962508@N03/
> >>
> >> This came about by running my 200bps synchronous coil with the phase
> >> setting badly out - this was being done to simulate running as 100bps.
> >> The cap string was rated at 36KV, and while that voltage rating has
> been
> >> adequate for the last 6 years or so when running at 200bps, it most
> >> likely proved too low for my latest 100bps antics; the experiment being
> >> the 'final straw that broke the camel's back'. Lesson learnt.
> >>
> >> Regards Phil
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 4
> >> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 11:08:35 -0400 (EDT)
> >> From: Steve White <steve.white1@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Subject: Re: [TCML] Watch your Caps!
> >> Message-ID:
> >> <647060071.621095951.1535123315484.JavaMail.zimbra@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >>
> >> Phil,
> >>
> >> This is something that I have wondered about. Lets say that you have
> your
> >> break rate set at 200 BPS (4 bangs per cycle) and the firing angles are
> at
> >> 0, 90, 180, and 270 degrees. Assuming that the gap fires every time,
> there
> >> will be no voltage reversal due to firing phase angle. I am excluding
> >> voltage reversals due to the primary tank circuit oscillation in this
> >> discussion. Now lets assume that you have adjusted the phase angle so
> that
> >> the firing points are at 45, 135, 225, and 315 degrees. In this
> scenario,
> >> two of the firing points are effectively cancelled due to voltage
> reversal
> >> on the capacitors resulting in an effective 100 BPS firing rate. This is
> >> what I assume you are doing to simulate a 100 BPS firing rate from what
> is
> >> normally a 200 BPS firing rate. The potential problem, as I see it, is
> the
> >> following 2 charging intervals:
> >>
> >> 1. 135 degrees to 225 degrees
> >> 2. 315 degrees to 45 degrees
> >>
> >> During these two charging intervals, the charging voltage on the
> capacitors
> >> passes through zero and ranges between positive and negative equal value
> >> voltages, effectively cancelling the charge on the capacitors during
> these
> >> two intervals. This appears to me to represent a 100% voltage reversal
> to
> >> the capacitors. This voltage reversal will occur twice per cycle or 100
> >> reversals per second for 50 Hz power. We all know that pulse capacitors
> do
> >> not like large voltage reversals. I wonder if this is what is damaging
> your
> >> capacitors? This also leads me to wonder if a ARSG is more stressful on
> the
> >> capacitors than a SRSG for the same reason.
> >>
> >> A mitigating factor is the fact that the rise time of the voltage
> reversal
> >> at the power line frequency is about 1000 times slower than than the
> voltage
> >> reversal due to tank circuit oscillation. This is much less stressful
> on the
> >> capacitors but I don't know how much. I haven't seen any capacitor specs
> >> about the effect of voltage reversal rise time on capacitor life.
> >>
> >> Steve White
> >> Cedar Rapids, Iowa
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "phil" <pip@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: "Tesla Coil Mailing List" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 8:11:30 AM
> >> Subject: [TCML] Watch your Caps!
> >>
> >>
> >> All,
> >> The Cornell-Dubilier's 942C20P15K-F capacitors have long become
> >> something of a stalwart for Tesla Coil use, however they are not
> totally
> >> immune to damage!
> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/33962508@N03/
> >>
> >> This came about by running my 200bps synchronous coil with the phase
> >> setting badly out - this was being done to simulate running as 100bps.
> >> The cap string was rated at 36KV, and while that voltage rating has
> been
> >> adequate for the last 6 years or so when running at 200bps, it most
> >> likely proved too low for my latest 100bps antics; the experiment being
> >> the 'final straw that broke the camel's back'. Lesson learnt.
> >>
> >> Regards Phil
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Tesla mailing list
> >> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 5
> >> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 23:01:06 -0300
> >> From: Antonio Queiroz <acmdequeiroz@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Subject: Re: [TCML] Max Voltage Gain In a Tertiary Coil
> >> Message-ID: <5adfd2a0-158a-9024-8390-75b0b733bd8d@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> >>
> >> Em 23/08/2018 11:12, Daniel Kunkel escreveu:
> >>> Antonio,
> >>> I understand the first part of what you are saying with the energy
> >> transfer
> >>> (which I understand to come from the very tight coupling of L1 and L2).
> >> This is a reason, allowing faster energy transfer, but there is also
> the
> >> effect of the shape of the waveforms if the
> >> secondary coil is correctly tuned.
> >> Precisely: In a conventional Tesla coil the primary voltage falls with
> a
> >> cosinusoidal envelope, while the secondary
> >> voltage rises with a sinusoidal envelope. In a Magnifier the
> >> corresponding envelopes are squared. This reduces the
> >> amplitude of the primary current in the initial part of the energy
> >> transfer, reducing the loss in the spark gap.
> >> More energy is then transferred to the top load.
> >>> However, when we look back several decades at what Tesla Coil hobbyist
> did
> >>> from the time of Tesla's death until the 70's or 80's, many of the
> >>> secondary coils had horrible aspect ratios (small diameter and VERY
> tall,
> >>> which we now call candlesticks). The result was poor performance, and
> were
> >>> designed completely opposite of Tesla's CSN coils with with aspect
> ratios
> >>> of 1:1 or 1:2. Today we seem to have settle on 1:3 - 1:4 for our
> coils. Is
> >>> that better, or a compromise?
> >> "Candlestick" coils may have too low coupling with the primary,
> >> resulting in many cycles for energy transfer and
> >> greater loss. Too short coils don't have enough insulation.
> >>> But to your statement, " Without losses considered the maximum output
> >>> voltage with two or three coils, with the same primary capacitor and
> total
> >>> load capacitance, is the same." I have to ask, if that is true, then
> how
> >>> many turns of wire is needed on the final resonator (L2 or L3)? How
> much
> >>> inductance is needed in any coil to produce high voltage? As a
> community I
> >>> think we have settled on 1,000 turns (+/- 200 turns).
> >> The voltage gain of a Tesla coil or a Magnifier can't exceed the square
> >> root of the ratio between the primary and
> >> secondary capacitances, due to energy conservation: 0.5*Cprim*Vprim^2 >
> >> 0.5*Csec*Vsec^2.
> >> The inductances of the coils are a consequence of what can be built
> with
> >> reasonable capacitances.
> >> In a Tesla coil the tuning relation must follow Cprim*Lprim =
> Csec*Lsec,
> >> and so the voltage gain is
> >> also the square root of the ratio of secondary to primary inductances.
> >> Normal primary coils with a few turns have
> >> inductances in the tens of microhenrys. A gain of 30 puts the secondary
> >> inductance in the tens of milihenrys.
> >> Reasonable geometries for air-core coils really result in around 1000
> >> turns for this range of inductances.
> >>> So if we continue to stick to these aspect ratios and parameters and
> >> employ
> >>> them in the typical magnifier setup, then yes, I would expect
> performance
> >>> to be similar. But I believe with magnifiers (L1, L2, and L3) can and
> >>> SHOULD be constructed to 1:1 aspect ratios. I realize you have a LOT of
> >>> real world magnifier experience...I hope to get there too some day!
> >> I don't have a lot of practical experience with magnifiers, but I know
> >> their theory. I have built just a few low-power variations to
> >> check the theory, that worked precisely as calculated. 1:1 ratio seems
> >> good for L2. L1 must be flat or wider to result in adequate couplings
> >> with L2.
> >> L3 can be short, but enough inductance is best obtained with more turns
> >> than with wider coils. The lenght is determined by
> >> insulation.
> >>> Here is an interesting video. That green pole on the left is the
> >> secondary!
> >>> Now I believe this one was constructed for this experiment and not
> made to
> >>> produce the normal streamers...but still interesting.
> >>> https://youtu.be/A6Tc6Hj4cas?t=1m37s
> >> Seibt coil, a standing wave demonstrator. Note that the long coil is a
> >> kind of third coil of a magnifier.
> >>
> >> Antonio Carlos M. de Queiroz
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 6
> >> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 22:31:12 +0000 (UTC)
> >> From: robert massa <massahbob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Subject: Re: [TCML] Suggestion for postings
> >> Message-ID: <531348909.2326372.1535149872438@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >>
> >> Have gleaned much from TCML and Gary . I;'m in.??????????? Bob Massa ,
> >> Alton, IL
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thursday, August 23, 2018 8:34 AM, Steve White
> >> <steve.white1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I thought that I just did.
> >>
> >> Steve White
> >> Cedar Rapids, Iowa
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Gary Lau" <glau1024@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: "Tesla Coil Mailing List" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 4:54:19 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [TCML] Suggestion for postings
> >>
> >> Excellent idea Steve, but you should lead by example ;-)
> >>
> >> Gary Lau
> >> Newton MA, USA
> >>
> >>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 1:41 PM Steve White <steve.white1@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I have seen recently that people are wondering if there are fellow
> coilers
> >>> nearby. I often wonder this myself. To help with this, I propose the
> >>> following. When posting something, state your name, city, and state at
> the
> >>> end. Exact street address need not be posted. If people want to stay
> >>> anonymous, then I understand. I will be doing this on my future
> postings.
> >>>
> >>> Steve White
> >>> Cedar Rapids, Iowa
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Tesla mailing list
> >>> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla
> >>>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Tesla mailing list
> >> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Tesla mailing list
> >> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 7
> >> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 22:55:24 +0000
> >> From: Mr Nico <nicothefabulous@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Subject: Re: [TCML] Watch your Caps!
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> >>
> <CY4PR20MB13339F2F20110859D5765BC9A8360@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.outlook.
> >> com>
> >>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >>
> >> Wow cool stuff! Nice toasted marshmallows there...
> >>
> >> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Tesla <tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of phil <
> pip@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 8:11:30 AM
> >> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List
> >> Subject: [TCML] Watch your Caps!
> >>
> >>
> >> All,
> >> The Cornell-Dubilier's 942C20P15K-F capacitors have long become
> >> something of a stalwart for Tesla Coil use, however they are not totally
> >> immune to damage!
> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/33962508@N03/
> >>
> >> This came about by running my 200bps synchronous coil with the phase
> >> setting badly out - this was being done to simulate running as 100bps.
> >> The cap string was rated at 36KV, and while that voltage rating has been
> >> adequate for the last 6 years or so when running at 200bps, it most
> >> likely proved too low for my latest 100bps antics; the experiment being
> >> the 'final straw that broke the camel's back'. Lesson learnt.
> >>
> >> Regards Phil
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Tesla mailing list
> >> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 8
> >> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 01:30:41 -0500
> >> From: Chris Reeland <chrisreeland@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Subject: Re: [TCML] Suggestion for postings
> >> Message-ID:
> >> <CAPVCm=NQtBHHag2Hhy4EKrirRVPGYLmjPrhp=Ew_kfTZFrVgOg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> Been very busy past several months, been lurking though and catching up
> on
> >> posts at times.
> >> Started a new job, complete career change...a lot to learn, so have been
> >> busy and tired. Unfortunately not much coiling and a project VTTC
> stalled.
> >> But have some time this weekend, hopefully will post some things. Things
> >> are stabilizing finally...at least I hope! Going to do some "tube
> rolling"
> >> this weekend on a existing VTTC for some fun and some "Big Sparkeys" as
> I
> >> like to say...miss seeing them. Even though been busy new job, I have
> >> aquired several tubes to try out...see what happens.
> >>
> >> Okay here and will sign off on future posts also.
> >>
> >> Chris Reeland
> >> Ladd IL
> >>
> >> Sent from my LG V20
> >>
> >>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2018, 9:26 PM robert massa <massahbob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Have gleaned much from TCML and Gary . I;'m in. Bob Massa ,
> >>> Alton, IL
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thursday, August 23, 2018 8:34 AM, Steve White <
> >>> steve.white1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I thought that I just did.
> >>>
> >>> Steve White
> >>> Cedar Rapids, Iowa
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Gary Lau" <glau1024@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: "Tesla Coil Mailing List" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 4:54:19 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [TCML] Suggestion for postings
> >>>
> >>> Excellent idea Steve, but you should lead by example ;-)
> >>>
> >>> Gary Lau
> >>> Newton MA, USA
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 1:41 PM Steve White <steve.white1@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I have seen recently that people are wondering if there are fellow
> >>> coilers
> >>>> nearby. I often wonder this myself. To help with this, I propose the
> >>>> following. When posting something, state your name, city, and state at
> >>> the
> >>>> end. Exact street address need not be posted. If people want to stay
> >>>> anonymous, then I understand. I will be doing this on my future
> >> postings.
> >>>> Steve White
> >>>> Cedar Rapids, Iowa
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> >> Message: 9
> >> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 01:42:14 -0500
> >> From: Chris Reeland <chrisreeland@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Subject: Re: [TCML] What to call "sparks"?
> >> Message-ID:
> >> <CAPVCm=Ppjo1zOYWB_nTR3K-CjZSg8R4kkgqsZeST+apRBie8NA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>
> >> I also technically prefer streamer when I think about it. But
> whimsically I
> >> like to say loudly "Big Sparkeys!".
> >>
> >> Chris Reeland
> >> Ladd, IL
> >>
> >> Sent from my LG V20
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018, 8:34 AM Russell L Thornton <
> >> russell.l.thornton@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Whimsically I favor sparkle but more accurately I prefer mega-spark!
> >>>
> >>> Russell Thornton
> >>> Senior Engineering Specialist
> >>>
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> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 10
> >> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 07:47:26 -0700
> >> From: Carl Noggle <cn8@xxxxxxx>
> >> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Subject: Re: [TCML] What to call "sparks"?
> >> Message-ID: <6cb5a378-479f-1a82-d796-145f34583158@xxxxxxx>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> >>
> >> Lightning researchers refer to sparks such s these as streamers.? That
> >> seems like a good name for them, although for use with TCs it seems
> >> appropriate to add various overblown adjectives, adverbs and prefixes
> >> such as big, mega-, roaring, searing, etc.? For example, "The Tesla
> coil
> >> creates a profusion of hot, searing streamers, powered by 500,000? BIG?
> >> VOLTS!? Woe betide anyone who tangles with these egregious examples of
> >> evanescent electromagnetic excess!"? You get the idea.? If an audience
> >> member hollers that all volts are the same size, well, that's what
> >> bouncers are for.
> >>
> >> ---Carl
> >> ??? Lightning researcher
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 8/24/2018 11:42 PM, Chris Reeland wrote:
> >>> I also technically prefer streamer when I think about it. But
> whimsically
> >> I
> >>> like to say loudly "Big Sparkeys!".
> >>>
> >>> Chris Reeland
> >>> Ladd, IL
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my LG V20
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018, 8:34 AM Russell L Thornton <
> >>> russell.l.thornton@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Whimsically I favor sparkle but more accurately I prefer mega-spark!
> >>>>
> >>>> Russell Thornton
> >>>> Senior Engineering Specialist
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla
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> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 11
> >> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 14:13:37 -0400
> >> From: "doug" <doug11642@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: "Tesla Coil Mailing List" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Subject: Re: [TCML] What to call "sparks"?
> >> Message-ID: <740B611170114467B98371FA784E457D@dougPCPC>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8";
> >> reply-type=response
> >>
> >> while we are on the subject of Sparks, I have a question using my VDG's
> as
> >> an example. The pickups on most VDG's sit slightly away from the belt
> and in
> >>
> >> dim light one can see sparks going off the belt to the pickups. Am I
> wrong
> >> in believing that some energy gets dissipated as the sparks cross to
> the
> >> pickup from the belt? On my VDG's I use conductive poly film resting on
> the
> >> belt for the pickups and it works very well.
> >> Doug
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Carl Noggle
> >> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 10:47 AM
> >> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: [TCML] What to call "sparks"?
> >>
> >> Lightning researchers refer to sparks such s these as streamers. That
> >> seems like a good name for them, although for use with TCs it seems
> >> appropriate to add various overblown adjectives, adverbs and prefixes
> >> such as big, mega-, roaring, searing, etc. For example, "The Tesla coil
> >> creates a profusion of hot, searing streamers, powered by 500,000 BIG
> >> VOLTS! Woe betide anyone who tangles with these egregious examples of
> >> evanescent electromagnetic excess!" You get the idea. If an audience
> >> member hollers that all volts are the same size, well, that's what
> >> bouncers are for.
> >>
> >> ---Carl
> >> Lightning researcher
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 8/24/2018 11:42 PM, Chris Reeland wrote:
> >>> I also technically prefer streamer when I think about it. But
> whimsically
> >>> I
> >>> like to say loudly "Big Sparkeys!".
> >>>
> >>> Chris Reeland
> >>> Ladd, IL
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my LG V20
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018, 8:34 AM Russell L Thornton <
> >>> russell.l.thornton@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Whimsically I favor sparkle but more accurately I prefer mega-spark!
> >>>>
> >>>> Russell Thornton
> >>>> Senior Engineering Specialist
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Tesla mailing list
> >>>> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla
> >>>>
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> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 12
> >> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 11:38:04 -0700
> >> From: Ed <evp@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Subject: Re: [TCML] What to call "sparks"?
> >> Message-ID: <b5021b3d-8e4a-14d4-fe48-61dbe107faf1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> >>
> >>
> >> To my old ears sparks go 'BANG' and streamers go 'zzzBANG'.? If you can
> >> hear the 'zzzzzzzzzzzzz' in lightning you're way too close!!!
> >>
> >> Ed
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 8/25/2018 7:47 AM, Carl Noggle wrote:
> >>> Lightning researchers refer to sparks such s these as streamers.? That
> >>> seems like a good name for them, although for use with TCs it seems
> >>> appropriate to add various overblown adjectives, adverbs and prefixes
> >>> such as big, mega-, roaring, searing, etc.? For example, "The Tesla
> >>> coil creates a profusion of hot, searing streamers, powered by
> >>> 500,000? BIG? VOLTS!? Woe betide anyone who tangles with these
> >>> egregious examples of evanescent electromagnetic excess!"? You get the
> >>> idea.? If an audience member hollers that all volts are the same size,
> >>> well, that's what bouncers are for.
> >>>
> >>> ---Carl
> >>> ??? Lightning researcher
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On 8/24/2018 11:42 PM, Chris Reeland wrote:
> >>>> I also technically prefer streamer when I think about it. But
> >>>> whimsically I
> >>>> like to say loudly "Big Sparkeys!".
> >>>>
> >>>> Chris Reeland
> >>>> Ladd, IL
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my LG V20
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018, 8:34 AM Russell L Thornton <
> >>>> russell.l.thornton@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Whimsically I favor sparkle but more accurately I prefer mega-spark!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Russell Thornton
> >>>>> Senior Engineering Specialist
> >>>>>
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> Tesla mailing list
> >>>>> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> >>>>>
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> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 13
> >> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 14:28:31 -0700
> >> From: Bart Anderson <gort@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Subject: Re: [TCML] What to call "sparks"?
> >> Message-ID: <ce5480dc-2a23-96de-06c6-aed1224e284a@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> >>
> >> OMG, are you guys going to persist on this post?.
> >>
> >> Okay, some of my sparks I see as "streamers" but most of my sparks I
> see
> >> as "turds".
> >>
> >> I suspect most sparks should be called "turds" far more often then
> >> anything else.
> >>
> >> just my 2 pesos..
> >>
> >> Bart
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 8/25/2018 11:38 AM, Ed wrote:
> >>> To my old ears sparks go 'BANG' and streamers go 'zzzBANG'.? If you
> >>> can hear the 'zzzzzzzzzzzzz' in lightning you're way too close!!!
> >>>
> >>> Ed
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On 8/25/2018 7:47 AM, Carl Noggle wrote:
> >>>> Lightning researchers refer to sparks such s these as streamers.?
> >>>> That seems like a good name for them, although for use with TCs it
> >>>> seems appropriate to add various overblown adjectives, adverbs and
> >>>> prefixes such as big, mega-, roaring, searing, etc.? For example,
> >>>> "The Tesla coil creates a profusion of hot, searing streamers,
> >>>> powered by 500,000? BIG VOLTS!? Woe betide anyone who tangles with
> >>>> these egregious examples of evanescent electromagnetic excess!"? You
> >>>> get the idea.? If an audience member hollers that all volts are the
> >>>> same size, well, that's what bouncers are for.
> >>>>
> >>>> ---Carl
> >>>> ??? Lightning researcher
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 8/24/2018 11:42 PM, Chris Reeland wrote:
> >>>>> I also technically prefer streamer when I think about it. But
> >>>>> whimsically I
> >>>>> like to say loudly "Big Sparkeys!".
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Chris Reeland
> >>>>> Ladd, IL
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from my LG V20
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018, 8:34 AM Russell L Thornton <
> >>>>> russell.l.thornton@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Whimsically I favor sparkle but more accurately I prefer mega-spark!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Russell Thornton
> >>>>>> Senior Engineering Specialist
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>> Tesla mailing list
> >>>>>> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>> https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla
> >>>>>>
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> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 14
> >> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 14:48:47 -0700
> >> From: Bart Anderson <gort@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Subject: [TCML] Javatc 13.3
> >> Message-ID: <8e678cc2-5628-5292-cb21-5426b8ffa8e7@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> >>
> >> There has been a recent update for Javatc
> >>
> >> Matt Lewis wrote a script or two to help him save a design to his hard
> >> drive and then load it.. He later shared it with me. I have now
> included
> >> that for Javatc.
> >>
> >> How it works:
> >>
> >> 1) load a demo coil OR just type in your coil parameters into the input
> >> boxes like normal.
> >>
> >> 2) Run Javatc to calc the form.
> >>
> >> 3) go down near the bottom where the "Format Design As Text" and "Make
> >> Load? File" buttons are...
> >>
> >> 4) click on "Make Load File" ----> this will save the load file to your
> >> hard drive wherever your browsers default save folder is located (we
> >> cannot force a Save As dialog in javascript, sorry)...
> >>
> >> 5) now that the file is saved, you can upload it...
> >>
> >> 6) if you want to upload that file (or any others you have saved),
> click
> >> on "Load Saved Coil" at the top right of the form.
> >>
> >> 7) "Load Saved File" button will open a browser dialog where you can
> >> simply browse to the file and select it for uploading...
> >>
> >> 8) once the file is selected and uploaded, you can run the data....
> >>
> >> There is no limit to what you can save and upload. It's all on the
> >> "client side" (your side on your hard drive)
> >>
> >> Of course you can rename the files that you save to whatever you desire
> >> and you can move them to whatever folder you desire...
> >>
> >> I want to thank Matt Lewis for making this happen. We got together
> >> Friday night and Saturday morning and now it should be working. There
> >> could be bugs but I think we killed most of the bugs.
> >>
> >> Anyway, just thought it would be good to let TCML know about that
> >> change... At some point I'll do the same for Javatc3D. Maybe next
> weekend.
> >>
> >> Mr. B
> >>
> >> /Love All, Trust Few, and Paddle Your Own Canoe/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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