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Man, I need a TeslaFest somewhere near Atlanta !!
Miles
Atlanta, Georgia
On 8/26/2018 12:52 AM, hooverrl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> TeslaFest 2018 - Chillicothe! Thanks Roger, we all had a great time.
> Enjoyed your historical commentary on your numerous artifacts from the past.
>
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> 1. Re: Teslafest appreciation (Forrest Mohrman)
> 2. Re: Max Voltage Gain In a Tertiary Coil (Daniel Kunkel)
> 3. Watch your Caps! (phil)
> 4. Re: Watch your Caps! (Steve White)
> 5. Re: Max Voltage Gain In a Tertiary Coil (Antonio Queiroz)
> 6. Re: Suggestion for postings (robert massa)
> 7. Re: Watch your Caps! (Mr Nico)
> 8. Re: Suggestion for postings (Chris Reeland)
> 9. Re: What to call "sparks"? (Chris Reeland)
> 10. Re: What to call "sparks"? (Carl Noggle)
> 11. Re: What to call "sparks"? (doug)
> 12. Re: What to call "sparks"? (Ed)
> 13. Re: What to call "sparks"? (Bart Anderson)
> 14. Javatc 13.3 (Bart Anderson)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 11:07:53 -0400
> From: Forrest Mohrman <forrestmohrman@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [TCML] Teslafest appreciation
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> I was not able to attend this year. I miss this local event as I had my
> big solid state coil there last year. Are there any pictures or video
> available?
>
> Bud Mohrman
>
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 7:25 PM Roger Smith <rwsmith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> On 8/18/2018 10:26 PM, Steve White wrote:
>>> I would like to thank Roger in Ohio for hosting the Teslafest at his
>> very nice indoor facility. It was a long drive for me and my wife but well
>> worth the trip. There were about 25 attendees that I saw. I met some great
>> people. Roger had his great equipment there including his very impressive
>> big SGTC and his big VTTC. The big SGTC looked to produce at least 15 foot
>> discharges. The big VTTC produced very impressive bushes of sparks about 5
>> feet in height drawing about 75 amps and occasionally tripping the main
>> breaker. Some attendees brought their equipment with them including a
> small
>> VTTC, a 833A VTTC, a medium quad NST powered SGTC, two different DRSSTCs,
>> two different tesla coil spark guns, a vacuum chamber with electrodes, a
>> Marx generator, and a tesla coil in a bottle (ask Roger). I sincerely hope
>> that Roger continues this wonderful tradition because I look forward to
>> next year. I saw a lot of pictures and video being taken. I hope those can
>> be published on-line somewhere
>>> where everyone can see them.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>> Cedar Rapids, Iowa
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>> Thanks Steve and thanks to everyone who participated. I intend to keep
>> having these annual events.
>>
>> Roger
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 09:12:56 -0500
> From: Daniel Kunkel <dankunkel@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [TCML] Max Voltage Gain In a Tertiary Coil
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> Antonio,
> I understand the first part of what you are saying with the energy transfer
> (which I understand to come from the very tight coupling of L1 and L2).
>
> However, when we look back several decades at what Tesla Coil hobbyist did
> from the time of Tesla's death until the 70's or 80's, many of the
> secondary coils had horrible aspect ratios (small diameter and VERY tall,
> which we now call candlesticks). The result was poor performance, and were
> designed completely opposite of Tesla's CSN coils with with aspect ratios
> of 1:1 or 1:2. Today we seem to have settle on 1:3 - 1:4 for our coils. Is
> that better, or a compromise?
>
> But to your statement, " Without losses considered the maximum output
> voltage with two or three coils, with the same primary capacitor and total
> load capacitance, is the same." I have to ask, if that is true, then how
> many turns of wire is needed on the final resonator (L2 or L3)? How much
> inductance is needed in any coil to produce high voltage? As a community I
> think we have settled on 1,000 turns (+/- 200 turns).
>
> So if we continue to stick to these aspect ratios and parameters and employ
> them in the typical magnifier setup, then yes, I would expect performance
> to be similar. But I believe with magnifiers (L1, L2, and L3) can and
> SHOULD be constructed to 1:1 aspect ratios. I realize you have a LOT of
> real world magnifier experience...I hope to get there too some day!
>
> Here is an interesting video. That green pole on the left is the secondary!
> Now I believe this one was constructed for this experiment and not made to
> produce the normal streamers...but still interesting.
> https://youtu.be/A6Tc6Hj4cas?t=1m37s
>
> Thanks,
> ~Dan
> Kansas City area
>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 6:57 AM, Antonio Queiroz <acmdequeiroz@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> Magnifiers may allow faster energy transfer, reducing the time when
> current
>> is flowing in the lossy spark gap. With reduced energy loss the energy
>> ending in the top terminal increases. Without losses considered the
> maximum
>> output voltage with two or three coils, with the same primary capacitor
> and
>> total load capacitance, is the same.
>>
>> Antonio Carlos M. de Queiroz
>> Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018, 9:56 AM Daniel Kunkel <dankunkel@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> When thinking about a 3 coil system, where the third coil is free to
>>> resonate, what is the best way to maximize the voltage gain?
>>>
>>> If we follow the Colorado Springs oscillator, we would use coils with an
>>> aspect ratio of 1:1 with a large space between the winding. IIRC the
>> space
>>> winding Tesla did was to reduce inter-turn arcing (due to the poor
>>> insulation qualities of the gutta-percha insulation), as well as an
>> attempt
>>> to reduce the self capacitance of the coil.
>>>
>>> So as best I can theorize, you should:
>>> -Identify what inductance and top load you need to achieve the desired
>>> frequency
>>>
>>> Then:
>>> -minimize the self capacitance of the coil
>>> -minimize the DC ohms of the coil
>>>
>>> So to that end, are they any easy to use and accurate calculators that
>> are
>>> available? JavaTC I believe is accurate, but the user interface is
>> lacking
>>> and not really easy to make these changes to aspect ratio, wire
> diameter,
>>> and spacing easy or quick. DeepFriedNeon is great, but I am unsure of
> its
>>> accuracy.
>>>
>>> ~Dan
>>> Kansas City area
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 14:11:30 +0100
> From: phil <pip@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [TCML] Watch your Caps!
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>
> All,
> The Cornell-Dubilier's 942C20P15K-F capacitors have long become
> something of a stalwart for Tesla Coil use, however they are not totally
> immune to damage!
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/33962508@N03/
>
> This came about by running my 200bps synchronous coil with the phase
> setting badly out - this was being done to simulate running as 100bps.
> The cap string was rated at 36KV, and while that voltage rating has been
> adequate for the last 6 years or so when running at 200bps, it most
> likely proved too low for my latest 100bps antics; the experiment being
> the 'final straw that broke the camel's back'. Lesson learnt.
>
> Regards Phil
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 11:08:35 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Steve White <steve.white1@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [TCML] Watch your Caps!
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> Phil,
>
> This is something that I have wondered about. Lets say that you have your
> break rate set at 200 BPS (4 bangs per cycle) and the firing angles are at
> 0, 90, 180, and 270 degrees. Assuming that the gap fires every time, there
> will be no voltage reversal due to firing phase angle. I am excluding
> voltage reversals due to the primary tank circuit oscillation in this
> discussion. Now lets assume that you have adjusted the phase angle so that
> the firing points are at 45, 135, 225, and 315 degrees. In this scenario,
> two of the firing points are effectively cancelled due to voltage reversal
> on the capacitors resulting in an effective 100 BPS firing rate. This is
> what I assume you are doing to simulate a 100 BPS firing rate from what is
> normally a 200 BPS firing rate. The potential problem, as I see it, is the
> following 2 charging intervals:
>
> 1. 135 degrees to 225 degrees
> 2. 315 degrees to 45 degrees
>
> During these two charging intervals, the charging voltage on the capacitors
> passes through zero and ranges between positive and negative equal value
> voltages, effectively cancelling the charge on the capacitors during these
> two intervals. This appears to me to represent a 100% voltage reversal to
> the capacitors. This voltage reversal will occur twice per cycle or 100
> reversals per second for 50 Hz power. We all know that pulse capacitors do
> not like large voltage reversals. I wonder if this is what is damaging your
> capacitors? This also leads me to wonder if a ARSG is more stressful on the
> capacitors than a SRSG for the same reason.
>
> A mitigating factor is the fact that the rise time of the voltage reversal
> at the power line frequency is about 1000 times slower than than the voltage
> reversal due to tank circuit oscillation. This is much less stressful on the
> capacitors but I don't know how much. I haven't seen any capacitor specs
> about the effect of voltage reversal rise time on capacitor life.
>
> Steve White
> Cedar Rapids, Iowa
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "phil" <pip@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Tesla Coil Mailing List" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 8:11:30 AM
> Subject: [TCML] Watch your Caps!
>
>
> All,
> The Cornell-Dubilier's 942C20P15K-F capacitors have long become
> something of a stalwart for Tesla Coil use, however they are not totally
> immune to damage!
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/33962508@N03/
>
> This came about by running my 200bps synchronous coil with the phase
> setting badly out - this was being done to simulate running as 100bps.
> The cap string was rated at 36KV, and while that voltage rating has been
> adequate for the last 6 years or so when running at 200bps, it most
> likely proved too low for my latest 100bps antics; the experiment being
> the 'final straw that broke the camel's back'. Lesson learnt.
>
> Regards Phil
>
> _______________________________________________
> Tesla mailing list
> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 23:01:06 -0300
> From: Antonio Queiroz <acmdequeiroz@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [TCML] Max Voltage Gain In a Tertiary Coil
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> Em 23/08/2018 11:12, Daniel Kunkel escreveu:
>> Antonio,
>> I understand the first part of what you are saying with the energy
> transfer
>> (which I understand to come from the very tight coupling of L1 and L2).
> This is a reason, allowing faster energy transfer, but there is also the
> effect of the shape of the waveforms if the
> secondary coil is correctly tuned.
> Precisely: In a conventional Tesla coil the primary voltage falls with a
> cosinusoidal envelope, while the secondary
> voltage rises with a sinusoidal envelope. In a Magnifier the
> corresponding envelopes are squared. This reduces the
> amplitude of the primary current in the initial part of the energy
> transfer, reducing the loss in the spark gap.
> More energy is then transferred to the top load.
>> However, when we look back several decades at what Tesla Coil hobbyist did
>> from the time of Tesla's death until the 70's or 80's, many of the
>> secondary coils had horrible aspect ratios (small diameter and VERY tall,
>> which we now call candlesticks). The result was poor performance, and were
>> designed completely opposite of Tesla's CSN coils with with aspect ratios
>> of 1:1 or 1:2. Today we seem to have settle on 1:3 - 1:4 for our coils. Is
>> that better, or a compromise?
> "Candlestick" coils may have too low coupling with the primary,
> resulting in many cycles for energy transfer and
> greater loss. Too short coils don't have enough insulation.
>> But to your statement, " Without losses considered the maximum output
>> voltage with two or three coils, with the same primary capacitor and total
>> load capacitance, is the same." I have to ask, if that is true, then how
>> many turns of wire is needed on the final resonator (L2 or L3)? How much
>> inductance is needed in any coil to produce high voltage? As a community I
>> think we have settled on 1,000 turns (+/- 200 turns).
> The voltage gain of a Tesla coil or a Magnifier can't exceed the square
> root of the ratio between the primary and
> secondary capacitances, due to energy conservation: 0.5*Cprim*Vprim^2 >
> 0.5*Csec*Vsec^2.
> The inductances of the coils are a consequence of what can be built with
> reasonable capacitances.
> In a Tesla coil the tuning relation must follow Cprim*Lprim = Csec*Lsec,
> and so the voltage gain is
> also the square root of the ratio of secondary to primary inductances.
> Normal primary coils with a few turns have
> inductances in the tens of microhenrys. A gain of 30 puts the secondary
> inductance in the tens of milihenrys.
> Reasonable geometries for air-core coils really result in around 1000
> turns for this range of inductances.
>> So if we continue to stick to these aspect ratios and parameters and
> employ
>> them in the typical magnifier setup, then yes, I would expect performance
>> to be similar. But I believe with magnifiers (L1, L2, and L3) can and
>> SHOULD be constructed to 1:1 aspect ratios. I realize you have a LOT of
>> real world magnifier experience...I hope to get there too some day!
> I don't have a lot of practical experience with magnifiers, but I know
> their theory. I have built just a few low-power variations to
> check the theory, that worked precisely as calculated. 1:1 ratio seems
> good for L2. L1 must be flat or wider to result in adequate couplings
> with L2.
> L3 can be short, but enough inductance is best obtained with more turns
> than with wider coils. The lenght is determined by
> insulation.
>> Here is an interesting video. That green pole on the left is the
> secondary!
>> Now I believe this one was constructed for this experiment and not made to
>> produce the normal streamers...but still interesting.
>> https://youtu.be/A6Tc6Hj4cas?t=1m37s
> Seibt coil, a standing wave demonstrator. Note that the long coil is a
> kind of third coil of a magnifier.
>
> Antonio Carlos M. de Queiroz
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 22:31:12 +0000 (UTC)
> From: robert massa <massahbob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [TCML] Suggestion for postings
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> Have gleaned much from TCML and Gary . I;'m in.??????????? Bob Massa ,
> Alton, IL
>
>
> On Thursday, August 23, 2018 8:34 AM, Steve White
> <steve.white1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> I thought that I just did.
>
> Steve White
> Cedar Rapids, Iowa
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Lau" <glau1024@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Tesla Coil Mailing List" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 4:54:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [TCML] Suggestion for postings
>
> Excellent idea Steve, but you should lead by example ;-)
>
> Gary Lau
> Newton MA, USA
>
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 1:41 PM Steve White <steve.white1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> I have seen recently that people are wondering if there are fellow coilers
>> nearby. I often wonder this myself. To help with this, I propose the
>> following. When posting something, state your name, city, and state at the
>> end. Exact street address need not be posted. If people want to stay
>> anonymous, then I understand. I will be doing this on my future postings.
>>
>> Steve White
>> Cedar Rapids, Iowa
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla
>>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 22:55:24 +0000
> From: Mr Nico <nicothefabulous@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Subject: Re: [TCML] Watch your Caps!
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> Wow cool stuff! Nice toasted marshmallows there...
>
> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36>
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> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 8:11:30 AM
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> Subject: [TCML] Watch your Caps!
>
>
> All,
> The Cornell-Dubilier's 942C20P15K-F capacitors have long become
> something of a stalwart for Tesla Coil use, however they are not totally
> immune to damage!
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/33962508@N03/
>
> This came about by running my 200bps synchronous coil with the phase
> setting badly out - this was being done to simulate running as 100bps.
> The cap string was rated at 36KV, and while that voltage rating has been
> adequate for the last 6 years or so when running at 200bps, it most
> likely proved too low for my latest 100bps antics; the experiment being
> the 'final straw that broke the camel's back'. Lesson learnt.
>
> Regards Phil
>
> _______________________________________________
> Tesla mailing list
> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 01:30:41 -0500
> From: Chris Reeland <chrisreeland@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [TCML] Suggestion for postings
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> Hello all,
>
> Been very busy past several months, been lurking though and catching up on
> posts at times.
> Started a new job, complete career change...a lot to learn, so have been
> busy and tired. Unfortunately not much coiling and a project VTTC stalled.
> But have some time this weekend, hopefully will post some things. Things
> are stabilizing finally...at least I hope! Going to do some "tube rolling"
> this weekend on a existing VTTC for some fun and some "Big Sparkeys" as I
> like to say...miss seeing them. Even though been busy new job, I have
> aquired several tubes to try out...see what happens.
>
> Okay here and will sign off on future posts also.
>
> Chris Reeland
> Ladd IL
>
> Sent from my LG V20
>
> On Fri, Aug 24, 2018, 9:26 PM robert massa <massahbob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Have gleaned much from TCML and Gary . I;'m in. Bob Massa ,
>> Alton, IL
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, August 23, 2018 8:34 AM, Steve White <
>> steve.white1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I thought that I just did.
>>
>> Steve White
>> Cedar Rapids, Iowa
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gary Lau" <glau1024@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "Tesla Coil Mailing List" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 4:54:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TCML] Suggestion for postings
>>
>> Excellent idea Steve, but you should lead by example ;-)
>>
>> Gary Lau
>> Newton MA, USA
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 1:41 PM Steve White <steve.white1@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have seen recently that people are wondering if there are fellow
>> coilers
>>> nearby. I often wonder this myself. To help with this, I propose the
>>> following. When posting something, state your name, city, and state at
>> the
>>> end. Exact street address need not be posted. If people want to stay
>>> anonymous, then I understand. I will be doing this on my future
> postings.
>>> Steve White
>>> Cedar Rapids, Iowa
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Tesla mailing list
>>> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla
>>>
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>>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 01:42:14 -0500
> From: Chris Reeland <chrisreeland@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [TCML] What to call "sparks"?
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> I also technically prefer streamer when I think about it. But whimsically I
> like to say loudly "Big Sparkeys!".
>
> Chris Reeland
> Ladd, IL
>
> Sent from my LG V20
>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018, 8:34 AM Russell L Thornton <
> russell.l.thornton@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Whimsically I favor sparkle but more accurately I prefer mega-spark!
>>
>> Russell Thornton
>> Senior Engineering Specialist
>>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 07:47:26 -0700
> From: Carl Noggle <cn8@xxxxxxx>
> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [TCML] What to call "sparks"?
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> Lightning researchers refer to sparks such s these as streamers.? That
> seems like a good name for them, although for use with TCs it seems
> appropriate to add various overblown adjectives, adverbs and prefixes
> such as big, mega-, roaring, searing, etc.? For example, "The Tesla coil
> creates a profusion of hot, searing streamers, powered by 500,000? BIG?
> VOLTS!? Woe betide anyone who tangles with these egregious examples of
> evanescent electromagnetic excess!"? You get the idea.? If an audience
> member hollers that all volts are the same size, well, that's what
> bouncers are for.
>
> ---Carl
> ??? Lightning researcher
>
>
>
> On 8/24/2018 11:42 PM, Chris Reeland wrote:
>> I also technically prefer streamer when I think about it. But whimsically
> I
>> like to say loudly "Big Sparkeys!".
>>
>> Chris Reeland
>> Ladd, IL
>>
>> Sent from my LG V20
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018, 8:34 AM Russell L Thornton <
>> russell.l.thornton@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Whimsically I favor sparkle but more accurately I prefer mega-spark!
>>>
>>> Russell Thornton
>>> Senior Engineering Specialist
>>>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 14:13:37 -0400
> From: "doug" <doug11642@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Tesla Coil Mailing List" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [TCML] What to call "sparks"?
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> while we are on the subject of Sparks, I have a question using my VDG's as
> an example. The pickups on most VDG's sit slightly away from the belt and in
>
> dim light one can see sparks going off the belt to the pickups. Am I wrong
> in believing that some energy gets dissipated as the sparks cross to the
> pickup from the belt? On my VDG's I use conductive poly film resting on the
> belt for the pickups and it works very well.
> Doug
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carl Noggle
> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 10:47 AM
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> Subject: Re: [TCML] What to call "sparks"?
>
> Lightning researchers refer to sparks such s these as streamers. That
> seems like a good name for them, although for use with TCs it seems
> appropriate to add various overblown adjectives, adverbs and prefixes
> such as big, mega-, roaring, searing, etc. For example, "The Tesla coil
> creates a profusion of hot, searing streamers, powered by 500,000 BIG
> VOLTS! Woe betide anyone who tangles with these egregious examples of
> evanescent electromagnetic excess!" You get the idea. If an audience
> member hollers that all volts are the same size, well, that's what
> bouncers are for.
>
> ---Carl
> Lightning researcher
>
>
>
> On 8/24/2018 11:42 PM, Chris Reeland wrote:
>> I also technically prefer streamer when I think about it. But whimsically
>> I
>> like to say loudly "Big Sparkeys!".
>>
>> Chris Reeland
>> Ladd, IL
>>
>> Sent from my LG V20
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018, 8:34 AM Russell L Thornton <
>> russell.l.thornton@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Whimsically I favor sparkle but more accurately I prefer mega-spark!
>>>
>>> Russell Thornton
>>> Senior Engineering Specialist
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> Message: 12
> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 11:38:04 -0700
> From: Ed <evp@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [TCML] What to call "sparks"?
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> To my old ears sparks go 'BANG' and streamers go 'zzzBANG'.? If you can
> hear the 'zzzzzzzzzzzzz' in lightning you're way too close!!!
>
> Ed
>
>
> On 8/25/2018 7:47 AM, Carl Noggle wrote:
>> Lightning researchers refer to sparks such s these as streamers.? That
>> seems like a good name for them, although for use with TCs it seems
>> appropriate to add various overblown adjectives, adverbs and prefixes
>> such as big, mega-, roaring, searing, etc.? For example, "The Tesla
>> coil creates a profusion of hot, searing streamers, powered by
>> 500,000? BIG? VOLTS!? Woe betide anyone who tangles with these
>> egregious examples of evanescent electromagnetic excess!"? You get the
>> idea.? If an audience member hollers that all volts are the same size,
>> well, that's what bouncers are for.
>>
>> ---Carl
>> ??? Lightning researcher
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/24/2018 11:42 PM, Chris Reeland wrote:
>>> I also technically prefer streamer when I think about it. But
>>> whimsically I
>>> like to say loudly "Big Sparkeys!".
>>>
>>> Chris Reeland
>>> Ladd, IL
>>>
>>> Sent from my LG V20
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018, 8:34 AM Russell L Thornton <
>>> russell.l.thornton@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Whimsically I favor sparkle but more accurately I prefer mega-spark!
>>>>
>>>> Russell Thornton
>>>> Senior Engineering Specialist
>>>>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 14:28:31 -0700
> From: Bart Anderson <gort@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [TCML] What to call "sparks"?
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> OMG, are you guys going to persist on this post?.
>
> Okay, some of my sparks I see as "streamers" but most of my sparks I see
> as "turds".
>
> I suspect most sparks should be called "turds" far more often then
> anything else.
>
> just my 2 pesos..
>
> Bart
>
>
> On 8/25/2018 11:38 AM, Ed wrote:
>> To my old ears sparks go 'BANG' and streamers go 'zzzBANG'.? If you
>> can hear the 'zzzzzzzzzzzzz' in lightning you're way too close!!!
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>> On 8/25/2018 7:47 AM, Carl Noggle wrote:
>>> Lightning researchers refer to sparks such s these as streamers.?
>>> That seems like a good name for them, although for use with TCs it
>>> seems appropriate to add various overblown adjectives, adverbs and
>>> prefixes such as big, mega-, roaring, searing, etc.? For example,
>>> "The Tesla coil creates a profusion of hot, searing streamers,
>>> powered by 500,000? BIG VOLTS!? Woe betide anyone who tangles with
>>> these egregious examples of evanescent electromagnetic excess!"? You
>>> get the idea.? If an audience member hollers that all volts are the
>>> same size, well, that's what bouncers are for.
>>>
>>> ---Carl
>>> ??? Lightning researcher
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/24/2018 11:42 PM, Chris Reeland wrote:
>>>> I also technically prefer streamer when I think about it. But
>>>> whimsically I
>>>> like to say loudly "Big Sparkeys!".
>>>>
>>>> Chris Reeland
>>>> Ladd, IL
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my LG V20
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018, 8:34 AM Russell L Thornton <
>>>> russell.l.thornton@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Whimsically I favor sparkle but more accurately I prefer mega-spark!
>>>>>
>>>>> Russell Thornton
>>>>> Senior Engineering Specialist
>>>>>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 14:48:47 -0700
> From: Bart Anderson <gort@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [TCML] Javatc 13.3
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> There has been a recent update for Javatc
>
> Matt Lewis wrote a script or two to help him save a design to his hard
> drive and then load it.. He later shared it with me. I have now included
> that for Javatc.
>
> How it works:
>
> 1) load a demo coil OR just type in your coil parameters into the input
> boxes like normal.
>
> 2) Run Javatc to calc the form.
>
> 3) go down near the bottom where the "Format Design As Text" and "Make
> Load? File" buttons are...
>
> 4) click on "Make Load File" ----> this will save the load file to your
> hard drive wherever your browsers default save folder is located (we
> cannot force a Save As dialog in javascript, sorry)...
>
> 5) now that the file is saved, you can upload it...
>
> 6) if you want to upload that file (or any others you have saved), click
> on "Load Saved Coil" at the top right of the form.
>
> 7) "Load Saved File" button will open a browser dialog where you can
> simply browse to the file and select it for uploading...
>
> 8) once the file is selected and uploaded, you can run the data....
>
> There is no limit to what you can save and upload. It's all on the
> "client side" (your side on your hard drive)
>
> Of course you can rename the files that you save to whatever you desire
> and you can move them to whatever folder you desire...
>
> I want to thank Matt Lewis for making this happen. We got together
> Friday night and Saturday morning and now it should be working. There
> could be bugs but I think we killed most of the bugs.
>
> Anyway, just thought it would be good to let TCML know about that
> change... At some point I'll do the same for Javatc3D. Maybe next weekend.
>
> Mr. B
>
> /Love All, Trust Few, and Paddle Your Own Canoe/
>
>
>
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