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David am I missing somthing? You said that the coil was drawing 90 amps. That is over 20 kva. How big are the sparks? Teddy On Apr 21, 2018 10:40 PM, "David Rieben" <drieben@xxxxxxx> wrote: > Some of you may remeber that I posted to the list an enquiry about the > suitability of GE protective power caps (2X 0.25 uFd @ 13.8 kVAC in series) > for Tesla coil operation, probably several months ago now. Bert Hickman > thought that they would be quite suitable for Tesla coil duty, so that was > good enough for me to give 'em a try. ;^) Well, between being back to > working 40 hours a week and what seems like a life time of miserable, rainy > weekends, I finally got a good day to try out those caps in my coil. Since > I was replacing a 0.1 uFd Maxwell pulse cap (measured C about 0.114 uFd) > with a measured C of 0.135 uFd, the coil obviously needed retuning for > optimal operation. Since I am forced to run it outdoors in my driveway and > the primary tap takes several minutes to loosen and reattach each time I > change it, I was really only able to get a preliminary tuning down to the > nearest whole turn, but still good enough for a test run. > > I have also added 0.33 ohms worth of power resistors on one of the 'hot' > 240 volt input legs, in combination with my inductive ballast on the other > 'hot' input to my pole pig since the last time I fired it (probably at > least a year by now!) I was trying to further 'smooth' the operation of the > coil and further suppress any nasty kickbacks that may find their way back > to my control panel or even my home's wiring. > > Well, she did run fairly well, although it seemed like the added > resistance throttled it back a bit. I noticed that even with the variac > wheel turned up to around 80, the coil was still only drawing around 60 to > 65 amps and it seemd that this was about the 'limit' - (it was drawing > around 85 to 90 amps before without the added resistive ballasting and with > the original 0.1 uFd Maxwell cap with the variac wheel at this same > setting). Of course, even with only 0.33 ohms of added resistance, per the > I2R law of joule heating, at 65 amps, thats still about 1400 watts of > wasted energy that does NOT make it to those beautiful streamers! > > Also, there seemed to be more 'wah-wah' beating of the output with my > typical 300 to 350 bps roary gap setting - (noticed this more from > observing my panel ammeter flactuate than from the actual tone of the > sparks). Never-the-less, the output (and current draw) was definitely > smoother and more steady with my original setup. I tried varying the speed > of the rotary gap drive to see if I could get out of the beat fluctuations > and find a 'sweet spot', but that didn't really seem to make much > difference. So it seems that the added resistance gave me the opposite > affect than the 'smoothing' that I was looking for. > > Anywho, I will probably have an audience next time I run it and the first > thing that I will likely do is try bypassing those power resistors. I have > never really liked the idea of resistive ballasting wasting power in heat > anyway, but I have read that a small resistive component in the ballasting > does tend to smooth out and knock the tops off of some of the nasty > kickback transients. I have still occasionally observed an occasional spark > inside my control panel where you DON'T want to see sparks! That's the only > reason that I was trying the resistive ballasting approach. > > Those GE protective capacitors DO seem VERY robust, though and never even > broke a sweat - can you say 27,600 volts AC rating with never more than 17 > kVAC input??!! (plus they have internal bleeder resistors, making them > safer than the typical pulse cap) so at least for now, I'm leaning more > toward staying with them and working out the few preliminary kinks that I > am having with their operation than changing back to my original 0.1 uFd, > 75 kV Maxwell pulse cap. > > Any comments or suggestions from any of the resident geniuses and/or other > experienced pole piggy coilers? > > David > _______________________________________________ > Tesla mailing list > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla