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Not sure what you mean by shorting your spark gap? How are you tuning? As far as I know you tune while it's running which means your Terry filter will be inline. Never run without the Terry filter unless you have a house full of neon transformers lol. Use a tesla program to get you close to the desired # of turns for your clamp and then slide it up and down your primary coil looking for the best streamer length. John WT5Y Sent from my Samsung GALAXY S5™, a Cricket 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Forrest Mohrman <forrestmohrman@xxxxxxxxx> Date: 10/19/2016 10:18 (GMT-06:00) To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TCML] Coil tuning question using terry filter Hi all, I am currently working on a coil using a 15kv 120ma.......going all out on the quality and workmanship. Question.......probably been asked a ton but here it is..........when tuning do I include the terry filer and resistors with the spark gap shorted. Or do I just use the spark gap shorted bare bones? Bud Mohrman _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla