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Sounds like the pipes are reacting to one another, rather than en-masse to the surrounding ground, much like Ed says. Out of curiosity I would run it with solely a single earth, and then try two pipes alongside one another, as I wonder if pipes of dissimilar metal would behave differently to two of the same metal? Phil -----Original Message----- From: undisclosed recipient [mailto:arcin_n_sparkin@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: 16 June 2016 13:11 To: Phil Subject: pipes rattling Yes. When I have it tuned for top running (still working on primary coil resonance) with what I had, it did it every time. At first I thought it was the motor in either the washer or dryer, but then I grabbed the faucets for the washer and they were shaking to beat the band. All I can figure is that the emf from the primary is somehow causing them to resonate. _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla