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Hi Paul, Unlike some of the other responses I think there is a lot of experimental terrain in your activities. Here are my two cents about a possible direction to explore: An overlooked aspect here, maybe even misunderstood is the density gradation of the atmosphere. One would expect that the density distribution would go from the densest atmosphere at the surface of the planet and gradually thinning in relation to elevation, but it isn't correct. From the troposphere (closest to surface) it starts to thin with elevation but then pauses and begins a reversal of atmospheric density in the stratosphere where it begins to thicken with elevation, pausing, then reversing yet again the density distribution in the mesosphere. The layers of the atmosphere continue this way all through to empty space, reversing back and forth in density distribution. We also know that the electric field increases with altitude, but we only know this to be true for the troposphere- the tallest radio antenna in the world is only a little more than 2000 feet- the troposphere extends another six miles above that. An interesting question would be if the electric field reverses polarity as the density gradation of the atmospheric layers do. A mylar balloon could double as a faraday cage and you could use a field meter with your ground charge probe inside the balloon and the other attacked to the exterior metallic side of the mylar.balloon. Charge would accumulate as the balloon rose through the thinning troposphere, but what happens to this charge as the air begins to thicken again in the stratosphere? Could the surface of the conductive balloon be smooth enough as to start glow blueish as it struggles to rid itself of excess charge? And then what happens as this gradient reverses yet again in the mesosphere? Could be very interesting. Nck <https://www.avast.com/en-us/lp-esg-fav?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=oa-2109-v2-b> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/en-us/lp-esg-fav?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=oa-2109-v2-b> <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Paul B. Thompson <mrapol@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Recently I've gotten involved with a group of high altitude balloon > hobbyists. We're always looking for interesting experiments to try in the > stratosphere, and I thought of one with HV application. I'd like to run it > by everyone here as a thought-experiment first. > > Air is a dielectric. Not a great one, but a sufficient air gap between two > electrodes prevents arcing. (I may not be expressing this the best way, but > you all know what I mean.) If you lower the air pressure greatly, would a > high voltage spark leap across the same distance? I imagine something like > a charged flash capacitor being lofted in a balloon. The poles of the cap > are connected to electrodes separated by a gap sufficient to prevent > discharge at normal air pressure. If the balloon lifts the apparatus to, > say, 100,000 feet, will we see the apparatus arc over when the air is > sufficiently attenuated? Or will we get a kind of corona glow? Or nothing? > > A camera would be pointed at the gap to film the result. > > Paul Thompson > > > _______________________________________________ > Tesla mailing list > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx > http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla