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Re: [TCML] Power factor correction



    
It's not the inrush current the variac is on before I switch on the coil by way of 12vdc solid state relay.  And I tried both fast and slow fuses in the variac.  I did have variac all the way up.  This was happening with just 2 12kv 60ma Xformers. But now I want to run my 3rd one so I figured this would be really pushing it on my 20 amp wall receptacle.

By the way how did you get 6 amps per transformer?  Is that under test or by formula?  I have scoured the net for a way to figure out how many amps a NST pulls.  Is it the same amps running a tesla coil vs just shorting the hv terminals?
On the current Xformers recomended earlier say I have it hooked up and the current is 25 amps what would my dmm show 2.5 or 250?  Or some other number?  
John cooper


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-------- Original message --------
From: Jim Lux <jimlux@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
Date: 09/03/2015  07:39  (GMT-06:00) 
To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: Re: [TCML] Power factor correction 

On 9/1/15 3:25 PM, wt5y wrote:
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> I'm at the point I need to add some motor run caps, I'm thinking the same that go on your ac units in the 40-50uf 330-440v variety unless someone has a better sugestion.  Looks like I will need around 150uf per transformer I have 3 12/60 NST.  Biggest question is do I run all 9 parallel or run about 3 strings of 3 to each?  Would before or after the EMI filters make a difference.
> Blowing 20 amp fuses on variac, don't have a clamp meter and my dmm is only good to 10 amps inline.  I was going to add some and then start measuring the current?
> John Cooper



I'm not sure that PFC will help.  All PFC does is change the phase of 
the current relative to the voltage.  It won't reduce the current.


If you're popping the fuse on initial power up, what you're seeing is 
the magnetization current for the transformers (inrush current), if you 
happen to turn it on at the wrong point in the sine wave. (e.g. it's 
that "thump" when you apply power).

The inrush can be as big as 10 times the normal current.

How about changing to a slow blow fuse or a circuit breaker with the 
appropriate timeconstant.

You could also rig up some sort of resistor in series that gets shorted 
soft start.

Each of your 12/60s is 6 amps full load current, so you're running 
pretty close to 20 amps normally. Something like 5-10 ohms in series 
would limit the current.

Or switch on your transformers one at a time.





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