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Doug, The minor diameter will affect the breakout voltage, so if the minor diameter is too large then the coil won't break out without a break-out point. Too small a diameter will cause it to break out at a lower voltage depriving the coil of some of the voltage build up on the toroid, usually resulting in multiple smaller streamers, although some people desire this behaviour. Max diameter affects the field control under the toroid, so too small and you will / may get primary, or if really too small, secondary strikes. Obviously aesthetics comes into it as well to some extent, meaning actual sizes will depend on what the coil output power is, and also its dimensions. There's a video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6PTwVnb1uo showing the effect of a larger and smaller toroid on the same coil setup as a test. The toroid in that is big enough to allow breakout only once the variac is cranked up, resulting in a single streamer. Phil -----Original Message----- From: Tesla [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of doug Sent: 29 November 2015 14:28 To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TCML] TOPLOAD Hello; Can some of you,more learned than I, Coilers give me some insight on proper TOP LOADS? such as, results of too much top load, proper placement of multiple top loads, and any other pertinent information and advice when designing a top load for any given coil. Thank you, Doug J _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla