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I will point out that "real" metal lathes aren't always expensive - I bought a 100 year old one for $20 at a garage sale, so it is probably worth looking around. By the way, also avoid like the plague the little atlas lathe that sears used to sell - it is one of the worst of the worst. -----Original Message----- From: Tesla [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jonathan Peakall Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 5:32 PM To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [TCML] Wanted tabletop metal lathe I agree, and you just saved me a good bit of typing. I have a china lathe and it is quite useful for some things and other things I do on my friends "real" lathe. I have no room or money, so it is a lot better than nothjing for me. Jonathan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Lux" <jimlux@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [TCML] Wanted tabletop metal lathe > On 11/23/15 3:04 PM, miles waldron wrote: >> Those China machines are terrible and unusable. > > I'll beg to differ, a bit.. > > It depends on your expectations. If you're looking at doing production > work with tight tolerances, yep, they're not what you should be looking > at. > > If you're looking for something to spin down raw stock to make bushings > and the like, particularly out of aluminum or plastic, they're probably > just fine. > > If you're a stickler for accuracy, and want tenths of a mil kind of > precision when turning a long steel bar, or are machining gun barrels or > something, I wouldn't get one of these. Or if you want it to last 50 > years, machining every day. > > > things you don't get on this class of machine: > lots of speeds.. OTOH, variable speed drives are so cheap now, unless you > need the increased torque from "gearing down", you might be better off > getting a VSD and living with the gear ratios you get. > > screw thread cutting with lots of options. It will probably cut a few > ratios, but not all of them. If what you're interested in is making a > helical groove as a guide for an inductor, it's probably plenty good. > If you're looking to make whitworth threads to replace parts on your turn > of the 19th century Austin 8HP motorcar, probably not. > > A variety of accessories.. it will likely have weird sizes, so if you want > to use that cool jig for turning hemispheres that fits on a "standard > lathe tool post", it probably won't work. > > > Many traditional machinists don't like these machines: the casting just > isn't that big so they lack the brute stiffness of a multi ton cast > structure, so if you try to take too big a cut, things wobble and bend. > > > It's sort of like using a drill press as a vertical mill (by clamping an > end mill in the jacobs chuck, and using a x-y table). The drill press > isn't designed to take side loads on the quill bearings, but, if what > you're machining is polyethylene or even aluminum, it probably won't be > horrible. The runout is bigger than you'd get on an old Bridgeport, and > the X-Y lead screws will not be as even and will have backlash. But if > you're cutting to a scribed line, and 0.01" accuracy is good enough, then > it will work. > > > Think of them as something between a "real machine tool" and something > like a handheld Dremel tool. > > With respect to conversions.. > It's all about bracketry and software. Either someone has figured out how > to hook the stepper/servo motors up to your specific machine, or they > haven't. If they haven't it's a lot of work. > > > > > >> >> On 11/23/2015 4:50 PM, msweeney23@xxxxxxxxx wrote: >>> I was looking at those and realize they are all made in the same factory >>> in china (central machinery, grizzly etc) >>> >>> ive seen a lot of quality complaints and am a stickler for accuracy. Im >>> afraid id end up pulling it apart to replace various items. >>> >>> Also i might like to upgrade later to cnc stepper motors not sure if its >>> as easy on these as others. >>> >>> Do you experience with this brand and model? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Matt >>> >>> ----- Reply message ----- >>> From: "Dave Leddon" <dave@xxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: "Tesla Coil Mailing List" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> >>> Subject: [TCML] Wanted tabletop metal lathe >>> Date: Mon, Nov 23, 2015 11:53 AM >>> >>> http://littlemachineshop.com/5100 >>> http://littlemachineshop.com/products/product_view.php?ProductID=4959 >>> >>> At 09:09 AM 11/23/2015, you wrote: >>>> Table top Metal lathe>> >>>> http://www.sears.com/grizzly-9inch-x-19inch-bench-lathe/p-SPM1126610614?hlSe llerId=29429&sid=IDx20110310x00001i&kpid=SPM1126610614&kispla=SPM1126610614 >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: msweeney23@xxxxxxxxx >>>> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 12:01 PM >>>> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List >>>> Subject: [TCML] Wanted tabletop metal lathe >>>> >>>> Hi all, im looking to buy a decent metal lathe for small project >>>> work. I want something to turn up to 3-4 inches maybe less all >>>> metals and plastics some wood. >>>> >>>> Used is fine if in good condition. If you know anyone selling or >>>> have suggestions please so let me know. >>>> >>>> Price range flexible probably not more than a couple thousand would >>>> like to spend less than $1000. >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> Matt >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Tesla mailing list >>>> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx >>>> http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Tesla mailing list >>>> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx >>>> http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tesla mailing list >>> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx >>> http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tesla mailing list >>> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx >>> http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tesla mailing list >> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx >> http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla >> > > _______________________________________________ > Tesla mailing list > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx > http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla