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Understand - there is nothing sacred about the 1000-1500 turns number or the 5:1 aspect ratio. They're just guidelines. But I would definitely use a 6" minimum diameter secondary, and using #26 AWG, a 28" winding length gives a 4.5:1 ratio and ~1600 turns. I was fortunate to have found an abandoned scrap of 6" PVC at a construction site. Failing that, try seeing if any plumbing supply places have damaged pieces. I wouldn't recommend settling for 22" winding length - you want every inch you can muster between the primary and the top load. Regards, Gary Lau MA, USA On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Dave Halliday <dh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > If your neighborhood is large enough to support both a Lowe's and HD, it > should be large enough to have a commercial plumbing company. > > Go to them and see if they could sell you a length of 8" PVC tube. Explain > what you are doing and if they are interested enough, they might give it to > you. > > Be prepared to pay though - Grainger's has a 10' length of 8" schedule 40 > (thin wall) for $138.60 > > http://www.grainger.com/product/HARVEL-Pipe-22FR49?functionCode=P2IDP2PCP > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tesla [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim Gilmore > > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 11:45 > > To: Futuret; Tesla Coil Mailing List > > Subject: Re: [TCML] Dual identical FRANCE neon sign > > transformers (15000v60mA each) in parallel > > > > I went to Lowes and found a greenish 6" pvc? Tube BUT it's > > only 24" and the only 6" pipe they carry. Also went to Home > > Depot and bought a 4" standard pvc whitish tube but only 24". > > They do carry longer 4" pipe but it would need to be cut from > > a 5' length. > > > > Since I'm using 2 15000v 60mA NST I'm thinking I will need to > > use the 6" pipe but for 1200 turns Ill need 26 gauge for 22" > > but leaves me with a 3.5:1 ratio. Is this good enough not > > being at 4:1 or 5:1 ratios - or is it better to just use the > > more common 4" pipe (2' or buy a taller one) with the 2 NSTs? > > > > Thanks, Tim > > > > > On Feb 21, 2015, at 3:22 PM, Futuret via Tesla > > <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Tim, > > > > > > The secondary does not need to be as tall as the spark is > > long. For example > > > my TT-42 coil has an 18" tall secondary and gives 42" > > sparks. However sparks > > > are more likely to arc down from the toroid and strike the > > primary if the secondary > > > is too short. I often place a smaller toroid below the > > main toroid to raise up > > > the main toroid some to keep sparks away from the primary. > > The length > > > of the sparks has a lot to do with the current in the arc > > and the growth > > > of sparks over successive gap firings. It seems to me that > > _______________________________________________ > Tesla mailing list > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx > http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla