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(My dad also used to say that there is no such thing as a silly question. One day I asked him why there is no such thing as a silly question. He said, "Well, that's a silly question.")
(Should send a copy of this to Kurt Goedel.) ---Carl On 2/6/2015 6:17 AM, David wrote:
Thanks Scott - Hmmm ,,, So If I understand you, you are saying that the gap begins to fire when the moving electrode is approaching the still electrode (_before_ alignment) , do to the high voltage on the cap, and not _at_ or _afte__r_ alignment. And that the Freau controller delays, as apposed to advancing, the 60hz phase to the sync motor so as to delay the arrival of the moving electrode to firing spot, There by allowing adjustment to the optimal firing point just after peak voltage on the cap.Dave On 2/5/2015 12:38 PM, Scott Bogard wrote:Not quite...Pretend for a moment, you live in a perfect world. In this perfect world,the spark gap arcs, at the precise moment where spark gap electrodes are perfectly aligned. In this world, a Freu controller will allow us tochange the level of charge in the tank capacitor, by changing the point intime where those electrodes align. Ideally we want that firing to occurwhen the input AC cycle is at it's highest, because if we do it sooner, thetank cap has more charging to do, and if we do it later, the tank cap is discharging back into the transformers and hence the line. This has nothing to do with the spacing that the arc stretches across.But we don't live in a perfect world... In reality the electrodes do arc early, because they are impatient, and as soon as they get close enough toarc static gap style, they do. To compensate for this we use our Freucontroller to set the system out of phase by a degree or two, so that whenthat premature arcing occurs, is exactly at the peak of the AC input cycle. The adventurous (with a huge budget, and a strong will forefficiency) will design spark gaps with enough gaps in series so that the premature arc is almost not premature at all. This way as soon as your arcoccurs (at perfect alignment), it is getting stretched LONGER and canquench faster, which traps more energy in the secondary. I hope this helpsclear things up a bit, and remember, there are no silly questions... On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 11:36 AM, David <zipo@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Hello every one - I just wanted to double check my understanding of how the electrodes "close" in a sync gap .If I understand this correctly, a sync gap fires as the moving electrode approaches the stationary electrode, by the arcing distance of the voltage on the cap and not when the the electrode is moving away? Right? And the John Freau phase controller delays the arrival of the moving electrode soas to increase the distance to the stationary electrode, there by increasing the voltage on the cap? Is this correct?I know these are silly questions but I just want to be absolutely sure Iunder stand this correctly. Thanks Dave _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla_______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla_______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla
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