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Ok, I ended up adding a temporary winding to the primary coil (at present I believe I am at about 8.25 turns on the primary. But things are looking up. When I first put the ground wire up near the toroid I was only able to get about 2" sparks. I think I was at about 4.5 turns at that point. It seems that I may still need to add more turns to get it really dialed in, but I noticed that having the ground wire 11" from the toroid I was getting good arcing, but when I tried to move it to 12" away from the toroid I could reach it once in a while but then I got a lot of action on my safety gap. I'm thinking I might need to move that safety gap apart a little bit more. I don't want to move the safety gap out so far that I my spark gap might get too wide as I thought I read that a spark gap too wide can burn up an NST. Here's a video of the 11" arcing: https://youtu.be/Lka24-Hqf3k Thanks! Paul -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 12/27/15, Heather & Paul Novotny via Tesla <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Subject: Re: [TCML] No topload output To: "Tesla Coil Mailing List" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> Date: Sunday, December 27, 2015, 9:08 PM Hi Jim, I do have about a 2" gap in my Strike Rail. Good idea to run a solid copper wire from ground up next to the toroid and a having breakout point on the toroid to see if anything is happening up there. I have the coil on the floor of my garage which is a cement slab poured on earth. My ground is a copper wire that runs to a metal stake pounded down about 2.5 feet into the earth outside my garage. Thanks! Paul -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 12/27/15, Jim Lux <jimlux@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Subject: Re: [TCML] No topload output To: "Heather & Paul Novotny" <p_novotny@xxxxxxxxx>, "Tesla Coil Mailing List" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> Date: Sunday, December 27, 2015, 9:02 PM On 12/27/15 5:29 PM, Heather & Paul Novotny via Tesla wrote: > Hi guys, > > I just tried my TC for the first time tonight after COUNTLESS hours of work on it. Unfortunately, I am getting no streamers from the topload. > Do you have a breakout point on the topload? And something to spark to? I use a piece of grounded (as in connected to the bottom of the secondary/counterpoise) copper tubing that sticks up and I can move closer and farther from the topload. In your picture, I'd put it sticking up from the edge of your cart, until you get things working. Does your strike rail have a gap in it? (It should, or it looks like a shorted turn) What's your ground scheme look like? For a coil this size, I'd use something like a 3-4 foot square piece of chicken wire or hardware cloth, or sheet metal under the coil. (rule of thumb is that "ground" should have a radius comparable to the height of the secondary). In your case, that ground screen/counterpoise should be at the level of the top of your cart. _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla