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I can confirm from my own experiments, if i use a strip of copper with very short pins as a brush i get much better performance. In fact one brush setup uses a copper strip wrapped on a nylon tube with pins pushed through and it provides considerably more apparent charge transfer than pins soldered to a pcb. ----- Reply message ----- From: "p_novotny via Tesla" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> To: "Tesla Coil Mailing List" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [TCML] VDG pickups (was Ignition coil driver) Date: Tue, Dec 22, 2015 8:47 PM Hi Doug - excellent workmanship! I built a homemade VDG generator too and it will shock me from about 18" away. Mine uses a bedframe castor attached to a oscillating fan motor and it turns a belt made from nylon stockings over a teflon rod (just friction - not a roller). I use little metal screen patches as my pickup brushes. They don't touch the belt, but they seem to do an adequate job nonetheless. Where do you source your motors? I am just putting the finishing touches on my first Tesla Coil at the moment too and am excited to try it out. These things are funny (kinda like the VDG generator) - you invest countless hours on it, not knowing if your are going to get an ounce of satisfaction from it. Hopin' for good luck on the Tesla Coil. Thanks - Paul -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 12/22/15, doug <doug11642@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Subject: Re: [TCML] VDG pickups (was Ignition coil driver) To: "Tesla Coil Mailing List" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2015, 4:55 PM Hi Derek; What you see is conductive plastic film riding on the rollers attached with copper tape, rollers are PVC and aluminum tape covered acrylic. I did do comparisons, plastic film produced 30% more current. Belt Is neoprene. Doug -----Original Message----- From: ExtremeElectronics.co.uk Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 4:52 PM To: Tesla Coil Mailing List Subject: Re: [TCML] VDG pickups (was Ignition coil driver) Doug, From what I can see from the videos, you are using a thin piece of copper for your pickup. Have you done any comparison between that, wires or gauze. Do you see an increase in current or voltage ? What is the composition of your rollers and belt ? Derek On 22-Dec-15 2:34 PM, doug wrote: > Hello Derek; > Thank you for your comments and including a link to my youtube video. I > have included a link to my youtube page so you can take a look at some of > my VanDeGraaff projects. I think all VDG builders are using the wire or > screen type pickups on their VDG’s, I have found something MUCH better. > You can see it in operation in some of my videos. > https://www.youtube.com/user/dr043042#p/u > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCWAH-J091c > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoS7sOy2Src > > Thank you again, Doug J. > > -----Original Message----- From: ExtremeElectronics.co.uk > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 11:35 AM > To: Tesla Coil Mailing List > Subject: Re: [TCML] Ignition coil driver > > You can get about 300W from 8 of them though.. > > http://www.extremeelectronics.co.uk/electronic/v8-tesla-engine/ > > Derek > > > > On 18-Dec-15 2:30 PM, Jim Lux wrote: >> On 12/18/15 4:39 AM, doug wrote: >>> Hello; I am looking for some information concerning Ignition coil HV >>> supplies. I am using 120V mains through a light dimmer and wonder if >>> there is something better and more robust than the dimmer? This Ignition >>> coil HV supply will be a dual coil setup using a 25.0uf/370VAC motor run >>> Cap. >>> >> >> >> >> Not as cheap.. >> >> any of the standard capacitor discharge electronic ignitions basically >> put 400V pulses into the coil to generate HV. >> >> 6000 RPM in a 8 cylinder engine is 200 Hz >> >> typical energy per "pulse" is 100 mJ so 200 Hz is 20 W >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tesla mailing list >> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx >> http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > > _______________________________________________ > Tesla mailing list > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx > http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > _______________________________________________ > Tesla mailing list > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx > http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla