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Hi Stefan Blue glow is perfectly normal: http://www.thetubestore.com/Resources/Matching-and-other-tube-info/Blue-Glow Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Tesla [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Teslalabor > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 04:35 > To: Co60bishop; Tesla Coil Mailing List > Subject: Re: [TCML] Homemade Crookes Tube? > > Hi Cobalt 60, > > when I was experimenting with large transmitting tubes > (graphite anodes) at > only arround 6kV anode voltage, there was a bright blue > glowing visible > arround the complete inner surface of the glas bulb. > I'm sure, this "fluorescence" was generated by x-rays, > hitting the glas. > Although not sure, which amount of x-rays really was able to > go through the > glas and hitting me, this was the main reason, I immediately > canceled all my > further experiments with such tubes, because I was afraid of > x-rays, even at > such low voltages. So I think the dangerous level is far > below 30kV, as you > stated. > I even have some QB5/1750 Tetrodes, which are only 5kV anode > voltage or so, > and this tubes have "Danger X-Ray radiation" warning's on it. > > Regards, > Stefan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Co60bishop via Tesla" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: "Tesla Coil Mailing List" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 6:35 AM > Subject: Re: [TCML] Homemade Crookes Tube? > > > > Paul, David is absolutely correct. I test semiconductors > for radiation > > hardness using x-rays and the tube you had made sounds like > it has low > > pressure argon gas and there is also a small amount of > mercury on one of > > the electrodes when a " neon" tube is made. I say neon but > tube color > > depends on which gas is in the tube and the phosphorous > coating inside of > > the tube. I can assume your tube is plain glass with no > coating. I had one > > of every color made years ago by our local neon sign > company and I hold > > one end in my bare hand and arc to my tesla coils at the > other end. You > > need to wrap each end with aluminum foil to spread the > power out when > > holding it. Dangerous x-rays require a minimum voltage of > 30 kV with some > > tubes operating with as much as 200 kV. Tungsten is the > typical target and > > a very hot high current filament is necessary to produce > powerful 10 keV > > and higher x-rays. The super hot filament is required to > emit enough > > electrons to generate the x-rays. What you have is > > not much different than using a fluorescent lamp to arc to > the secondary > > output. > > > > A Bishop > > Principal Device Physics Tech > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > >> On Sep 18, 2014, at 7:05 PM, David Rieben <drieben@xxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >> Paul, > >> > >> I am certainly no authority on this matter but from what I > have gleaned, > >> you are not going to produce "hard" x-rays in this manner. > Besides the > >> hard vacuum, this would also require a white-hot filament (for an > >> electron source) for the cathode, a heavy metal target > (usually tungsten) > >> for the anode, and well over ~50 kVDC potential between > the said cathode > >> and anode to really produce the ionizing, body penetrating > hard x-rays > >> (even dental x-ray tubes typically run about 70 kV(DC)). > That being said, > >> if you are powering your tube with say 10 to 20 kVDC, you > may produce > >> some low energy "soft" x-rays, but I don't think it's > going to be a > >> significantly ionizing radiation source. I'm not even sure > if you can > >> produce any kind of x-rays at all with AC? That's just > "my" 2 cents. ;^) > >> > >> David > >> > >> > >> On Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:01 PM, Paul B. Thompson > >> <mrapol@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> I just recently found a local neon sign maker and asked > him to make me a > >> simple vacuum tube, which he did, gratis (!). It's 18 > inches long, clear > >> glass tubing about 3/4 inch in diameter, with electrodes > at opposite > >> ends. I > >> don't know how hard a vacuum he pulled on this, but very > quick tests show > >> a > >> pale blue glow from end to end. A strong magnet placed > next to the tube > >> pinches the beam, intensifying it at the spot. > >> > >> I've not run this for more than a few seconds. I am > concerned about > >> x-rays. > >> I'd like advice about operating this tube safely. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Paul > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Tesla mailing list > >> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx > >> http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Tesla mailing list > >> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx > >> http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > > _______________________________________________ > > Tesla mailing list > > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx > > http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > > _______________________________________________ > Tesla mailing list > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx > http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla