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Dave, Thank you for providing a voice of reason here. This thread has had some disturbingly ignorant and intolerant remarks not typical of this group. - Karl ____________________ You guys are in serious need of some scientific research on effects such as vasodilation with the use of 29 khz (and probably harmonics). http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16875980 Also, I built flat spiral coils for doctors in Asia specifically for melting kidney stones with Tesla coils. They were lower frequency, but still, there are numerous physiological effects that high potential coils can have on the body. Part of it depends on the person's health. If they already have clogged arteries, then they may be particularly sensitive to having their arteries dilated, experience good blood flow, and when the coil stops, they will experience poor blood flow again, and hence the pains. It is not psychosomatic, it is very real. I experienced this first hand when I was running a plasma ball 24/7 in tight living quarters. It happened after I shattered my leg and gained a lot of weight and developed atherosclerosis. The 29 khz of the plasma ball made me feel great in my house, but when I left the electrostatic field of the ball, my arteries contracted and I felt panic attacks set in. The effects are quite real. Fortunately, I found the source of the problem, found out the physiology of the problem, and corrected my weight and cleaned out my arteries. Now I no longer experience the panic attacks. Tesla was very particular about his diet and exercised regularly, and likely lived to 83 in spite of his exposure to various radiations, and not because of it. Dave _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla