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Thanks for the info guys , I really appreciate it, ill let everyone know how I make out. On Jan 20, 2014 2:00 PM, <tesla-request@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Send Tesla mailing list submissions to > tesla@xxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tesla-request@xxxxxxxxxx > > You can reach the person managing the list at > tesla-owner@xxxxxxxxxx > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Tesla digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Pole pig coil. (Binny) > 2. Re: Pole pig coil. (David Rieben) > 3. If I parallel my secondary coil, do I need something between > my first and second coil? (Caleb Thompson) > 4. Re: Geek Group HV Fire (David Thomson) > 5. Re: Pole pig coil. (david baehr) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 13:07:12 -0500 > From: "Binny" <binny@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "Tesla Coil Mailing List" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [TCML] Pole pig coil. > Message-ID: <0E334D9718994C43AE76C5AFBD634BA0@Viper> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Caleb, > Not to tell you what to do or not to ,whenever I see a post > like yours I feel a strange urge to speak up as a survivor of a well placed > 20,000 volt shock at 250 plus ma ,Well let's just say be very careful > please. I do not like 1 eared piggies because a single bushing makes it > just > that much easier to get yourself the circuit, If you somehow manage to > survive you will never be the same and most likely will regret the day > you > considered messing with it. 'nuff said. Other than that I don't see why > your plan wouldn't work with the welder in series and the low sides shorted > to your preferred current draw. I would like to see you use an equipment > ground on the welder case. As the 220 you are feeding the pig with is hot > with respect to groung one can surmise so will be the pig's case in > relationship with the ground. So I think you will end up either insulating > the pig case or isolating the other side from the case. There are much > more > knowledgeable folks on the TCML than I but I thought I'd help get the > conversation rolling . Good luck with your coil definitely not a beginner > project. And please let us know all about it when your done. Cheers > Binny > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Caleb Thompson > Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 11:48 AM > To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [TCML] Pole pig coil. > > Hello my name is Caleb, I have a pole pig with only an H1 bushing, the > other > end of the coil is grounded, can I make this work? Also I want to limit the > current with an arc welder but only have one, if I don't hook the center > tap > up ( the neutral) and just strait 240 will this work? > _______________________________________________ > Tesla mailing list > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx > http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3681/7015 - Release Date: 01/19/14 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 12:49:25 -0600 > From: David Rieben <drieben@xxxxxxx> > To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [TCML] Pole pig coil. > Message-ID: <4hwjcd5p1kb2e574oe7y1t1d.1390157365470@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hi Caleb, > > Although a single-bushing pig is less desirable for coil firing than a > double-bushing unit, it will still definitely work. The main reason for > undesirability of use for single-bushing units is the difficulty of > isolation of RF ground from mains ground. One could possibly open up the > transformer and remove the ground tap from tank case and reconnect it to > the center low voltage bushing (assuming the external ground strap from > this terminal to the tank case ground has been removed as well), thus using > the center LV bushing as the HV return. Many respected list members will > tell you that you should not tie lower RF ground of the secondary coil > (Tesla coil itself) with the inner primary coil, but this method does > indeed work well for me. As a matter of fact, my coil develops a lot of > annoying internal flashovers in my control panel circuitry if I do NOT > interconnect my Tesla primary and secondary coils to a common RF ground. > That's just my personal experience and YMMV. > > David > > Caleb Thompson <calebriant777@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >Hello my name is Caleb, I have a pole pig with only an H1 bushing, the > other > >end of the coil is grounded, can I make this work? Also I want to limit > the > >current with an arc welder but only have one, if I don't hook the center > tap > >up ( the neutral) and just strait 240 will this work? > >_______________________________________________ > >Tesla mailing list > >Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx > >http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 20:51:47 -0500 > From: Caleb Thompson <calebriant777@xxxxxxxxx> > To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [TCML] If I parallel my secondary coil, do I need something > between my first and second coil? > Message-ID: > < > CAKaFCgEdd7kecVOgbgHfhwmzWonfAWb6L46xhDhXjw6wLtvB9g@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I am working on my third tesla coil and have had great success with the > first two, but this one I am using a 25kva 14.4kv pole pig and i read I > should parallel the secondary coil. I need some advice. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 23:37:03 -0600 > From: David Thomson <tcbuilder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [TCML] Geek Group HV Fire > Message-ID: > <CAD1NOyLKCmkVi= > nTWTt3TDiAG3F1Zm3sq+2Ju02q7XW4jcd82w@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > Hey Geek Group - Here's a must-do experiment for you... > > http://gizmodo.com/scientists-observe-ball-lightning-in-nature-for-the-fir-1504306477 > > Ball lightning has been observed in nature and the spectrometer showed > there was silicon, iron, and calcium present. Most ink toners have powdered > iron; and Cabosil is powdered silica. I can think of half a dozen salts as > a source of calcium; who knows if it has to be pure? > > Toss a handful of the dust mixture (not by hand of course) into a high > current discharge and it might make ball lightning. Perhaps a high voltage > discharge would work, too, but I would place my bet on high current. I have > the powders, but it has been a long time since I had the coils running. > After reading about what ball lightning can do, I'm not sure it is > something I want to try indoors, anyway. But since you have a fire > department that knows where you live now, maybe you guys could give it a > try? :-) > > Dave Thomson > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Steffan Heydon <steffan.heydon@xxxxxxxxx > >wrote: > > > HI Chris, > > > > I just heard from the Pupman list serve that you guys had a fire at your > > HV lab. I truly hope it was not totally destroyed. Did your big Tesla > coil > > survive? The information the Geek Group has available on youtube was > highly > > instrumental in helping me to build my first and so far only tesla coil. > My > > Tesla coil page is located at the following URL > > http://www.twotowers.com/tesla/tessie_1_tesla_coil.html and outlines the > > materials and the procedures I used to build my coil. I have several > links > > pointing to your site. I recently purchased a synchronous rotary spark > gap, > > two 15KV 60mA NST?s from Ed Sonderman who has been a Pupman.com member > for > > some time. The spark gap and the transformers are still residing in WA > > State with friends, who will hopefully soon be delivering the goods to my > > home in central California. My TC has been in limbo for a few months now. > > > > Thanks again for all of the information the Geek Group has made available > > through YouTube! > > > > Peace, > > Steffan Heydon > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tesla mailing list > > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx > > http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 07:50:43 -0700 > From: david baehr <dfb25@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [TCML] Pole pig coil. > Message-ID: <BAY177-W3C1C020646C1BAA7A2D89A8A50@xxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I ran a single bushing on a small coil 4" dia. It is a 'mini pig ' 1.5 > kva/14400 . Yes ,I also grounded the inside pri turn and secondary > along with the case of the little pig to its own ground rod outside the > shop and worked well for me. > > Yes, I was a little fearful at first, but just connect the case to its > own ground , not house ground , and should be fine > > Be safe , DaveB > > > Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 12:49:25 -0600 > > From: drieben@xxxxxxx > > To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: Re: [TCML] Pole pig coil. > > > > Hi Caleb, > > > > Although a single-bushing pig is less desirable for coil firing than a > double-bushing unit, it will still definitely work. The main reason for > undesirability of use for single-bushing units is the difficulty of > isolation of RF ground from mains ground. One could possibly open up the > transformer and remove the ground tap from tank case and reconnect it to > the center low voltage bushing (assuming the external ground strap from > this terminal to the tank case ground has been removed as well), thus using > the center LV bushing as the HV return. Many respected list members will > tell you that you should not tie lower RF ground of the secondary coil > (Tesla coil itself) with the inner primary coil, but this method does > indeed work well for me. As a matter of fact, my coil develops a lot of > annoying internal flashovers in my control panel circuitry if I do NOT > interconnect my Tesla primary and secondary coils to a common RF ground. > That's just my personal experience and YMMV. > > > > David > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Tesla mailing list > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx > http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla > > > End of Tesla Digest, Vol 75, Issue 12 > ************************************* > _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla