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I bought four diode strings off eBay for really cheap. If I recall, they're rated at around 115 kV, 1 amp. They were immersed in oil for 115 kV, but I ran them at 15 kV as a full-wave bridge rectifier in air with no problem, after blowing up my first 34 kV DC PSU. ________________________________ From: Teslalabor <teslalabor@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [TCML] Submerged diode strings hold off distance (transfomer oil) Hi Jim, I don't think it's a good idea to mount the rectifiers inside the tank. It's definetly not necessary to imerse them in oil neither for insulation nor cooling purposes. Another reason is: Maybe you will kill some rectifiers probably during some initial tests so do you really want to pull out the transformer everytime just for replacing dead diodes? Regards, Stefan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Mora" <wavetuner@xxxxxxxxx> To: "'Tesla Coil Mailing List'" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 6:54 AM Subject: [TCML] Submerged diode strings hold off distance (transfomer oil) > Hello Group, > > Since I ordered and tested my Raytheon transformer fluid with a new Dexsil > 40ppm test kit (available Forestry Supplies), I was pleased and bit > surprised that it is well below the 40ppm PCB limit, in fact near the > deepest purple on the lowest end of the test kit scale. It must have been > maintained for duty and flushed several cycles as was evident when I > opened > it. It was military and under tagged FAA auspice after all. > > Therefore, I have reconsidered my design a bit to mount the rectifiers > inside the tank. I removed the tall 12" horns for more space. And I seem > to > have ample room to mount my 6 pulse diodes strings recognizing there will > be > six pulse 12KV dc + to - to hold off at the ends. The strings (3) will be > mounted horizontally as a stack and spaced to hold off the stress ~ 5KVac > (H1,2,3 will go directly to the rectifiers at the isolated centers) and > the > ends (+,- 11KV) to any target. All 3 stacks will be joined at the ends for > plus and minus 6 pulse DC. Doing this frees up my three HV horns on the > top. > One will connect to negative the middle horn will connect to the internal > positive and deque diode junction. And the other side the farthest one > will > be dequed downstream positive to go to the external Charge Inductor. I > will > paint the base clamps Black, Yellow, and Red. Black is misleading as it is > well below ground potential (2 HV leads will exit). I will probably ground > the inductor tank and transformer together and may use 2 x-ray cables coax > case grounded at the transformer and strip 12" or so off out at the spark > gap. This has been an ongoing debate on the list unless it has been > resolved > in my absence. > > This gives me the option to experiment on top with different + to adjacent > minus storage capacitance (stiffening if needed) and ripple suppression > and > a serious reminder to discharge a lethal, hidden energy source (it would > have bleeder but time is an issue after T1). Hopefully such a cap will not > be needed, but I like this external simple freedom of selection. > > Having said all that, and if you stayed with me (thank you), how far apart > should the stacks be spaced to prevent flashover, and from other targets > like the HV coils and grounded case parts. I would mount them equal > distance > in the center of the open space. I am more curious about the diode stack > spacing. I don't have a lot of experience with real transformer oil and > its > dielectric strength. > > Before the transformer reconfiguration there was 24KV for Raytheon > engineers > to contend with and it was crowded in there! > > Thanks Much, > Jim Mora > > Ha ha, I am beginning to wish I sold this as a serious retro horror movie > prop or to the steam punk affectionaire. I do have (7) NOS JAN 8020 > rectifiers in original packing (40KV peak inverse) and vintage EF Johnsons > sockets that will be for sale. The filaments are thoriated tungsten and > glow > pure white and instant on. Definitely old Frankenstein stuff! Those old > >12" > white ceramic horns and bases will be on the block too as will the hefty > highly isolated 5V, 36 amp Filament transformer and maybe the 24KV 150H > filter choke. It has been interesting working on something older than I am > in great condition. This kind of device lends itself pretty well to EMP > and > was old school nuclear hardening. Forget about modern cars! It would be > cock > roaches and old diesel trucks still going ;-^) > > _______________________________________________ > Tesla mailing list > Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx > http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla