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Ian & All, Hmm That's rather changed things Ian, so there is a possibility it seems according to the chemistry at any rate. The empirical experience of Brian (and myself to some extent) made me think it wasn't, but the fact it has a metallic origin made me question that. The rotating electrodes are W (Tungsten) while importantly I forget to mention that the fixed electrodes are in fact Cu/W alloy. So this could enhance the effect even more. The query arose because I lost another SRSG motor at a recent UK teslathon, and this time I am reasonably sure a streamer strike was not to blame. I am therefore eliminating possibilities. Another possibility, a more likely one, and a ** point to watch ** for anyone running a SRSG with a Fraeu controller, is that maybe I had too much voltage rise across the motor. In my case I think it was 10 volts or more. Now that hasn't been a problem on previous motors, but some are more capable than others obviously (some are also more Chinese in origin than others as well <grin>) Regards Phil T www.hvtesla.com -----Original Message----- From: tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of AusTesla Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 10:09 PM To: 'Tesla Coil Mailing List' Subject: Re: [TCML] Tungsten Electrode Dust Hi, I've never seen this sort of arc over either, but looking at it purely from a chemistry viewpoint, the dust is partially conductive. It is a rather complex mix of four compounds + intermediates formed when tungsten is heated in air. The resulting four primary oxidation products are: Brown colored tungsten nitride which is conductive Copper/bronze colored tungsten (IV) oxide, which is highly conductive Yellow colored tungsten (VI) oxide, which is not conductive (used as a yellow pigment, WO3) Blue colored tungsten pentoxide, which is not listed anywhere I have seen as been conductive, however this one has quite a complicated structure, so I am not sure about it. Tungsten (III) oxide is also known but not formed from this process. Mix these together and you end up with a greyish white powder which is partially conductive. Ian -----Original Message----- From: tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Phil Tuck Sent: Sunday, 10 November 2013 3:28 AM To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TCML] Tungsten Electrode Dust All, Does anyone know for fact if the fine white dust that you find around a rotary spark gap, from the ablation of the electrodes, is actually conductive? One supposes it is, but logic and reality can be differant. Regards Phil T www.hvtesla.com _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla