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Re: [TCML] Secondary Damage (Large Coil)
Can the two part epoxy coatings be applied over a polyurethane finish please let me know as I'm about to run out this morn and get some you guys got me convinced on it
Thanks ,JM
On Apr 13, 2012, at 9:49 PM, Bert Hickman <bert.hickman@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Amir,
>
> Amir Mojarradi wrote:
>> Hi Bert,
>>
>>
>> That sounds fantastic.
>>
>>
>> Based off of your information, I have a clear idea of the necessary steps I will take:
>>
>>
>> 1). Remove bottom winding (~250 turns) - up until the damaged points.
>
> OK.
>
>> 2). Sand/scrape off the carbonized damage on the coil form
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> OK. If the removed areas leave deep gouges, fill these in with clear epoxy. After it has hardened, sand the filled-in areas so that they're flush with the rest of the form before adding the new wire.
>
>> 3). Apply thick epoxy resin coat onto the coil form
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> This is not necessary at this stage. Just splice in the new wire and then rewind the missing portion of the winding.
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>> 4). Splice in a new wire
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> Do this before rewinding - it's much easier to make the splice before winding the rest of the bottom portion.
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>> 5). Wind new bottom winding
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> OK
>
>> 6). Apply thick epoxy resin coat onto the new winding.
> Coat both the old and new portions of your winding with resin. It will cover both sections equally well and you'll end up with a complete layer of protection across your entire winding.
>
>>
>>
>> Sound all right?
>> Would you recommend applying the Envirotex over the entire coil, even parts which are already coated with several layers of varnish?
>>
>>
>> I'll keep you updated about how the procedure goes.
>
> Excellent! As others have mentioned, once you've repaired the secondary, you may also want to reduce your coupling and re-check the tuning of your system, since the coating may alter the resonant frequency of your secondary. Once the system is verified to be in tune, you can try increasing the coupling. Have s few folks stationed around the coil so that they can see all sides of the secondary. Run the coil at night or in a dark room. If you see any evidence of racing sparks, back off the coupling a bit. Also, look for (and fix) any abnormal corona between the primary and secondary, such as from the primary tap, between the innermost primary turn and secondary, or from the strike rail to the upper portions of the secondary (sort of like a corona "Christmas Tree"). Corona can quickly grow to become a potentially damaging flashover.
>
>>
>>
>> Thank you for your kindness,
>>
>>
>> Amir Mojarradi
>
> Best wishes and good luck!
>
> Bert
>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bert Hickman<bert.hickman@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List<tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 7:47 pm
>> Subject: Re: [TCML] Secondary Damage (Large Coil)
>>
>>
>> Hi Amir,
>>
>> Many coilers have had excellent results using Envirotex Lite Pour On
>> High Gloss Finish. This two-part resin is available in many craft and
>> hardware stores and it can also be ordered through numerous online
>> sources.
>>
>> http://eti-usa.com/envirotex-lite/
>> http://eti-usa.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Envirotex-Lite-English-Instruction-Sheet1.pdf
>>
>> You'll need to set up a well-ventilated, but dust-free (and flying
>> bug-free!) work area. You will also need to set up a fixture that can
>> continually rotate the coil form at a surface velocity of ~4 - 5
>> inches/second. You'll want to apply a relatively thick final coating
>> (1/16" - 1/8" max). You'll need apply the resin within ~25 minutes or
>> less after mixing. You'll need to continuously rotate your secondary
>> while applying the resin, and then continue rotation until the resin has
>> sufficiently hardened (typically 6-8 hours) to prevent sagging. Some
>> excellent practical information can be found in the TCML Archives. Look
>> for the "Envirotex Lite , High Torque drive" thread in the July, 2009
>> archives.
>>
>> When done right, you'll get a beautiful, hard, crystal-clear coating
>> that completely imbeds and protects the entire winding. Be sure to allow
>> your coating to completely harden (2-3 days) before using it in your
>> system.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Bert
>>
>> Amir Mojarradi wrote:
>>> Hi Bert,
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for your helpful advice. Is there a particular brand or type
>>> of epoxy or polyester that you recommend? I know other forms of epoxy
>>> exist, but the only products I have seen at major hardware store are
>>> the small, "5 min" epoxy tubes. Would these be sufficient?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank You,
>>>
>>>
>>> Amir Mojarradi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Bert
>>> Hickman<bert.hickman@xxxxxxxxxx> To: Tesla Coil Mailing
>>> List<tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 8:18 am Subject: Re:
>>> [TCML] Secondary Damage (Large Coil)
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Amir,
>>>
>>> The insulation between turns has been damaged, possibly by a strike
>>> to the winding, an arc-over from the primary to the lower part of
>>> the secondary, or by handling. Strikes to the secondary can be quite
>>> damaging on larger coils such as yours. At the very least you'll need
>>> to remove the windings around the affected areas, or remove the
>>> bottom portion of the winding since the coil form may now also be
>>> carbonized underneath.
>>>
>>> Once the winding has been removed from the affected areas,
>>> scrape/sand away any traces of carbonization from the form before
>>> applying new wire. Once you have repaired the winding, you may also
>>> want to consider applying a thick 2-part polyester or epoxy coating
>>> over the winding. This will protect it mechanically as well as
>>> helping to prevent any future damage if you get another strike to the
>>> secondary. The strike will harmlessly spread out along the surface of
>>> the coating instead of destroying the insulation/wire at a single
>>> concentrated point.
>>>
>>> Bert
>>
>>
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