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Re: [TCML] Propeller-Style SRSG eats Tungsten Rods @ 10kVA



Hi,
thanks a lot for the many answers. Yes, I think there are still some problems with this new system, especially I do not get all the energy transfered into the secondary, which seems to be the biggest problem. Maybe we can discuss this tesla a little bit in detail and you can help me getting into full success. First of all, here you can see details of the construction:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pUh3UVZdiE

And here, the TC runs with sparks @ topload, but the Propeller Gap also begins glowing, smoking and the noise and brightness of the primary sparks tells me, that the energy transfer is not good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abr3rxYUH5o

As you can see, I think for 10kVA input power the sparks should be twice as long! The specs of the TC:

Input: 0 - 400V 20A from variac
Tank circuit: 4 PT's each 100V / 10000V. Connected in series on low voltage side and parallel on high voltage side. So if variac is on 100%, every PT gets 100V and delivers 10kV. They are ballastet on the LV side via a ballast inductor with air gap, so that the short circuit current without tank circuit is arround 950mA. Caps: 2 commercial BOSCH Pulse Caps each 25kV / 500nF in series, giving 50kV / 240nF measured. Gap: Propeller Gap as seen in video. Secondary is 25cm diameter, 1,5m long and wound with 0,5mm wire + 0,4mm spacewinding.

The following problems: I think the coupling is to tight. Actually the lower turn of the secondary is 3cm ABOVE the flat primary. When I put it lower, I get bad racing sparks on the secondary surface. Should I remove some inner turns of the primary, so that I can put the secondary lower? Would this prevent the racing sparks?

Next possibility: Is 240nF to much? I have some more of this pulse caps. Should I put a third one in series? Then I would get 166nF tank capacitance @ 75kV. This would increase the bang voltage in the tank circuit, of course I would have to change the firing of the SRSG some ms earlier. Would this decrease the gap losses and so solve the heating problem? Also with 166nF the bang-energy would be higher and so the sparks getting longer?

Best Regards
Stefan

----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Mastroianni" <joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [TCML] Propeller-Style SRSG eats Tungsten Rods @ 10kVA



I recognize the glowing orange circle and the smoke, which in my case meant more power consumed in the gap than going out the top of the secondary. Some tuning fixed that in my case. It wasn't just the power increase. With the primary tuned, I get no more smoke. Just what I presume is standard erosion. Now I'm just considering the other issues of gap quenching that have been mentioned here on the list. I am reengineering my ARSG to maximize vibrational stability and higher current. Will test that, hopefully, this weekend.

Joe

This happens to a propeller style 200bps SRSG (3000rpm), if to much power is applied to its much to small pure tungsten rods. They are 4mm in diameter. Watch the white smoke, its Tungsten-Oxide! I now have to replace them by 8mm rods, which should be capable of processing 10kVA input power.

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