Ed -
Andrew's secondary dimensions are 4" OD, with a winding length of 22".
With his 4.5" X 18" diameter toroid installed, he is measuring a 
resonant frequency of around 515KHz.
This seems far too high a frequency for a coil of these dimensions 
WITH the topload installed; something appears to be wrong.
Regards,
Herr Zapp
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Phillips" <evp@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Tesla Coil Mailing List" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [TCML] Secondary self frequency
   Late message because I've been out of town.  I use a home grown 
program to calculate SRF and here's what I get, based on a winding 
factor [turns / turns with no spaces] of 0.98:
Diameter = 4.5 "
Winding length = 18" [You didn't say whether the 18" was winding 
length or total form length]
SRF = 555 kHz
Self capacitance = 7.6 uufd
Top load capacitance = 19.4 uufd
Loaded resonant frequency = 295 kHz
Turns = 653
DC resistance = 12.4  ohms
Not too far from what you got so your results don't sound strange to me.
Ed
Andrew Robinson wrote:
Does this sound strange to anyone. A 4" OD x 22" (windings) 
secondary using 22 gauge wire with a 4.5" x 18" spun alum toroid 
having a self res freq of around 515kHz? I ran the tests in the lab 
today and thats what im getting. For some reason though, I had 
reason to believe it was going to be much lower. I'm gonna resubmit 
this email next Thursday when I get a chance to get back in the lab 
and im gonna take a video of myself taking the measurements. Maybe 
im just doing something wrong.
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Regards,
Andrew Robinson
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