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Re: [TCML] Winding the primary



To anneal copper you must heat it up to a dull cherry red and then allow to cool. It does not need to be quenched.
It will oxidize and turn the copper a dirty color.
Now, you can do it with a propane or acetylene torch and just start heating one end to color and running the red up the tubing to the other end.

If you are willing, mix up a solution of Red Devil lye and water, use their mix formula for standing drains and drop the heated tubing in it, it will strip the oxidation off and leave a semi frosted finish on the copper. Do not leave it too long or it will start to eat the copper. Use extreme caution with this as it can burn the skin and eyes. You must wear rubber gloves and apron and eye protection. Use this ONLY outdoors.

Then take a NEW SOS pad and wet it and start rubbing down the tubing, it will polish it back up. It is very important to make sure the pad always is soapy tho or it will really scratch the tubing. Then finish up with some Brasso polish.
I know, a lot of hand work but it will look nice!

I have done this a lot for copper and brass tubing and piping, copper gaskets, brass, cast brass and etc.

Frank

At 01:37 PM 7/11/2008 -0500, you wrote:.
I have a couple of lengths of "salvaged" tubing myself with a few too many bends in it. I wouldn't have bothered in the past, but with the cost of copper... Anyway, I was wondering if anyone has managed to UN-work harden tubing? I was thinking of sticking it in the oven on high heat for a while and letting it slowly cool. Anyone ever try it? It's a pain in the neck, sure, but compared to unpotting an nst for example, it doesn't sound too bad.

Neal.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Quarkster" <quarkster@xxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: [TCML] Winding the primary


Steve -

What is your primary conductor? If you're using copper tubing, here are a few tips:

1. Use virgin refrigeration tubing, and leave it in the coiled shape that it comes in. Don't try to re-use "salvaged" tubing if you want a nice looking primary. Copper tubing "work-hardens" and stiffens very rapidly as you deform it, so deform it as little as possible.

2. DO NOT try to straighten the tubing, then re-form it into a spiral. The tubing will work-harden, then is likely to kink and become unmanagable.

3. Have an assistant hold the coil of tubing about a foot above your primary forms, and just let one coil drop down at a time. The typical diameter of a coil of rerfigeration tubing is around 18", so I start at the end of the primary that is closest in diameter to the diameter of the coil of tubing. For a small diameter primary this means starting at the OUTSIDE of the primary form and wind inward. For a large diameter primary, this means starting at the INSIDE of the primary form and winding outward. This way the tubing requires minimum deformation initially, and then must be gradually formed into a larger or smaller radius as you move outward or inward.

 Regards,
 Herr Zappp

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