Re: [TCML] comment about new coilers

[Frank <fxrays@xxxxxxxxxx>]

From what I could see Scott did everything right except for the type 
of transformer and parallel/ series wording wrong.
When he hit a roadblock, he asked for help!

Miles, I read your comments to mean we should all waste money and 
screw up, that is the only way to learn.
That is a great attitude to stop coilers and prevent accidents!
Yes, experience is a great teacher, but the purpose of teaching is to 
help folks learn from your mistakes so they do not make costly or 
perhaps even fatal ones.

By your reasoning, we should give  beginners a can of gasoline, a 
dead NST and tell them to un-pot it! After they burn themselves or 
blow up a space, then we will tell them what they did wrong!

Reading a post like yours makes folks think they have to buy the 
wrong components, burn things out or wind things wrong and after they 
do that, then we will help!

Kind of narrow minded is not it?

Frank

At 01:40 PM 2/16/2008 -0500, you wrote:
> I had this kind of problem a lot with new coilers on e-bay. They thought
> they were so smart to buy solid state neon sign drivers instead of
> usable non GFI NSTs. Somehow, as a community, we are making this too
> easy. New coilers especially those who do not listen, will make mistakes
> just like everyone else. Let them mess things up for awhile, and
> *learn*, just like the rest of us do. Isn't teaching science important
> anymore?
>
> Miles
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of G Hunter
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 11:17 AM
> To: Tesla Coil Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [TCML] Tesla Coil Problem: Capacitors?
>
>
> --- Scott <doxiescott@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Hey there Telsa List!
> > I have been working on my first coil for about 4
> > months now and I'm almost
> > sure it's one issue away from sparks....
> > My problem is a little tricky, so I'm gonna be as
> > detailed as possible here
> > (sorry for the massive post).
> >
> > First off:
> > The coil is built around a 10kv 30ma neon sign
> > transformer with stupid evil
> > GFP: Here's the description from the maker:
> >
> http://www.jcmimports-prostore.net/servlet/Detail?no=2
> >
> >
> > Thanks a lot guys, now let's get this working!
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>
> Scott,
>
> That isn't a neon sign transformer.  It looks like a
> solid-state neon power supply.  If I'm correct, it
> will not fire a spark gap, nor will it sustain an arc.
>  It won't charge up your MMC.  All it can do is light
> a neon sign.
>
> Until you fix that, further troubleshooting is moot.
>
> You need a genuine, heavy, bulky, iron-core neon
> transformer, preferably without ground fault circuit
> interrupter.  I'm partial to "Transco" outdoor-style
> NSTs, but any brand will do for starters.
>
> Check e-bay.  No shortage of used 30mA units there.
> The shipping is murder though.
>
> Greg
>
>
>
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