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Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 19:21:05 -0400
From: Scott Bogard <teslas-intern@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: Research Project (fwd)

Frank,
     I suggested argon because it is really cheap, and I have some, and it 
is what I use for plasma globes (I will invest in neon-xenon-krypton when I 
can afford them, which won't be for a while!).  I would be interested in 
seeing that article, contact me off-list
teslas-intern@xxxxxxxxxxx
Thanks.
Scott Bogard.


>From: "Tesla list" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
>To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: Research Project (fwd)
>Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 14:00:11 -0600 (MDT)
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>Original poster: List moderator <mod1@xxxxxxxxxx>
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>Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 12:38:49 -0700
>From: Frank <fxrays@xxxxxxxxxx>
>To: Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: Research Project (fwd)
>
>Making neon type tubes is a little harder that just sticking wires in 
>glass.
>You need special wire that will seal with the
>glass, typically either platinum or Dumet.
>Regular copper will not work. There should be
>some sort of electrode on the wire, not just a stub of wire.
>Then you need a manifold to attach the argon and
>control the amount needed to back fill.
>Lastly, as Dr. Resonance said, you need to
>bombard the tube to remove any entrapped gas
>before back filling. You can do this electrically
>or by controlled baking of the tube in a specific
>oven while under vacuum and then sealing the tube after filling.
>
>One question, why argon? It requires a higher
>voltage to ionize. Neon is a much better gas as
>it will fire at a lower voltage and is easier to see.
>
>For any interested, I have a copy of an early
>article on how to make a Geissler tube at home.
>It will give you an idea of how to make a vacuum
>tube. Of interesting note, they fill the tube
>with gasoline vapor and flash it off to outgas
>and lower the tube to the correct vacuum level.
>Not something you would do at close range!
>
>Frank
>
>At 01:05 PM 5/22/2007 -0600, you wrote:
> >Original poster: List moderator <mod1@xxxxxxxxxx>
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> >---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 11:19:15 -0500
> >From: resonance <resonance@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: Re: Research Project (fwd)
> >
> >
> >
> >You would also need a "bombarder" transformer to put 200-300 mA at 18-26 
>kV
> >across the tube to blast any residual molecules off the walls of the 
>glass
> >tubes.
> >
> >Dr. Resonance
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Tesla list" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 10:34 AM
> >Subject: Re: Research Project (fwd)
> >
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> >Original poster: List moderator <mod1@xxxxxxxxxx>
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> >Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 10:39:21 -0400
> >From: Scott Bogard <teslas-intern@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: Re: Research Project (fwd)
> >
> >I wonder if it is possible to "make" a neon tube out of that meltible 
>glass
> >you get with chemistry stuff.  I would think so, you would just need to 
>melt
> >one end with a wire in it, suck the air out of it, backfill it with gas, 
>and
> >melt the other end.  Those glass tubes cost a few bucks a piece, and air
> >conditioning compressor will serve adequately as a pump and can be 
>obtained
> >for free, snips of wire, and a tank of argon costs about $80 (unless you
> >borrow one from a friend who gets free refills).  I'll have to try it, 
>and
> >if it works, what you could probably do for your research project, is set 
>up
> >several "receivers" for your transmitter, and see how distance effects 
>them.
> >   If I were a judge, I would be very impressed!  then what one might do, 
>is
> >try to hook up the output of your receivers to power bigger stuff (even 
>if
> >it does not work at all, you will have "learned something", sometimes 
>judges
> >like failures almost as much as successes in the scientific world).  Good
> >luck.
> >Scott Bogard.
> >
> >
> > >From: "Tesla list" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > >To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
> > >Subject: Re: Research Project (fwd)
> > >Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 06:46:22 -0600 (MDT)
> > >
> > >Original poster: List moderator <mod1@xxxxxxxxxx>
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> > >Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 22:09:18 -0700
> > >From: Barton B. Anderson <bartb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >To: Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Subject: Re: Research Project (fwd)
> > >
> > >Now that sounds like a fun little thing to do at those 4th of July
> > >bashes here in the US. Have little tubes of neon and pass around to
> > >guest. See if they have fun with a little light wand while the coil is
> > >running.
> > >
> > >Bart
> > >
> > >Tesla list wrote:
> > >
> > > >Original poster: List moderator <mod1@xxxxxxxxxx>
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> > > >---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > >Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 17:00:29 -0500
> > > >From: resonance <resonance@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >To: Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >Subject: Re: Research Project (fwd)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Neon tubes are much more sensitive to RF currents than flourescent 
>lamps.
> > > >We use both neon and argon (blue) as accessories for our commercial 
>coils
> > >we
> > > >market to science museums.
> > > >
> > > >Dr. Resonance
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >this is Matthew Boddicker
> > > >
> > > >I have completed an experiment four months ago in which I used the 
>Earth
> > >as
> > > >a transmission line from one "Transmitter coil" to an identicle 
>"Reciever
> > > >coil". The experiement was a success, in as much that it is possible, 
>but
> > > >all that the "Reciever coil" was able to do was to get a flourescent
> > >light
> > > >bulb to flicker. I have a twenty page paper on the research project 
>that
> > >I
> > > >have been rewriting. if anyone is interested in getting it from me I 
>can
> > >get
> > > >a copy to e-mail in two or three weeks. my e-mail is
> > > >
> > > >shmerpleton_town@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >
> > > >My best wishes to your research.
> > > >Matthew
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>From: "Tesla list" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >>To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > >>Subject: Research Project (fwd)
> > > >>Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 10:58:42 -0600 (MDT)
> > > >>
> > > >>Original poster: List moderator <mod1@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >>
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> > > >>---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > >>Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 11:01:31 -0500
> > > >>From: Drake Schutt <drake89@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > >>To: Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >>Subject: Research Project
> > > >>
> > > >>Well summer is almost here and next year I will be a senior in high
> > >school!
> > > >>As seniors we are required to do an independent research project 
>over
> > >the
> > > >>summer, putting a minimum of 40 hours into it, and following up next
> > >school
> > > >>year with a 15 page paper.  I see this as a perfect excuse to do 
>some
> > > >>coiling as i haven't had much time this year.  This is where I have
> > >trouble
> > > >>deciding where to go with this.
> > > >>
> > > >>My 12kv/90ma coil is nearing completion and I was thinking that I 
>could
> > >do
> > > >>some sort of experiment with wireless power transmission.  I know 
>it's
> > > >>inefficient, but I recall someone talking about rigging up another 
>coil
> > >to
> > > >>attach to a lightbulb which could be lit up from a fairly 
>significant
> > > >>distance.  I've researched this a bit but I can't really find 
>anything
> > > >>about
> > > >>a recieving coil and light bulbs, so if anyone has info it would be
> > >greatly
> > > >>appreciated.
> > > >>
> > > >>I also love music and after looking at some audio modulated tesla 
>coils
> > > >>with
> > > >>their "plasma speakers" I would love to build one.  The only problem 
>is
> > > >>that
> > > >>I really have a limited knowledge of electronics outside of SGTC's 
>and
> > > >>SSTCs
> > > >>seem like a whole different animal.  I'm not dumb, I just want to 
>know
> > >if
> > > >>it's realistic to think that I can build a SSTC that can replicate 
>this
> > > >>plasma speaker effect over the summer.  I haven't seen anything 
>about
> > >these
> > > >>audio coils on the list before, but I would bet that somebody out 
>there
> > > >>knows about them.
> > > >>
> > > >>Also, if anyone has any more ideas that involve HV and TC's that 
>would
> > >be
> > > >>feasible to do over the summer, please reply!
> > > >>
> > > >>Thanks as always,
> > > >>Drake Schutt
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
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