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Re: 15kVA 12.6kV pole pig (fwd)



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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 00:13:01 +0000
From: David Rieben <drieben@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: 15kVA  12.6kV pole pig (fwd)

Tim, 

Then the only thing that I can suggest is the advice that Bert Hickman
gave about the ferro-resonance issue.

David Rieben

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> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 15:48:52 -0400 
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> Subject: Re: 15kVA 12.6kV pole pig (fwd) 
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> David, 
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> Â Â Â Â already disconnected it. 
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> Tim, 
> Ok, wow, that is rather strange. Logic would dictate that your transformer 
> ould react the opposite to what you are describing -- a loud core satura- 
> ion hum when attaching 240 volts to the center LV and one of the outer 
> nes (that is the 120 volt tap) and better perfromance when attaching 240 
> olts to the outer two LV terminals (that would be the 240 volt tap). O yea, 
> almost forgot to ask you about this issue. Is there a copper ground strap 
> etween the center LV terminal and the case of the outer tank? Most single 
> hase pole trannies do come with one of these grounding straps and if it 
> s there, you will need to remove it and leave this terminal unconnected 
> floating" for Tesla coil use. That may explain why you are getting saturation 
> hen running 240 volts through the 240 volt winding - it's being shunted out 
> o ground half way through the LV winding. 
> BTW, that transformer sounds like a nice catch ;^)) 
> David Rieben 
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> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 10:28:24 -0400 
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> Subject: Re: 15kVA 12.6kV pole pig (fwd) 
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> david, 
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> Â Â yes, i am sorry, it is Tim, thank you. according to the factory 
> nameplate, it is a 120/240 LV. FYI -Â HV has a 5 position switch for 
> incramental voltages from 12,600 down to 10,500 VAC. 
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> ubject: Re: 15kVA 12.6kV pole pig (fwd) 
> Hi , is it Tim? 
> Are you sure that your newly aquired pole transformer isn't rated for 240/ 
> 80 on its low voltage terminals instead of 120/240 since you are getting 
> etter performance by center tapping the LV terminals? 
> 
> avid Rieben 
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> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 01:57:34 -0400 
> From: timjroche@xxxxxxx 
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> Subject: 15kVA 12.6kV pole pig 
> 
> i have recently went from two Westinghouse PT's (about 5kVA) to a 15kVA 
> pole XFR. Holy Squirrelly!! i am running SRSG 3600 RPM 4flying (.5" 
> tung.)/2 station (.5" german silver). 0.1 uf hipotronics 70kV RMS tank 
> cap. 
> 
> my biggest issue, besides the obvious current limiting, is getting the gap 
> to quench. went to 8 pole flying and basically made a jacobs ladder around 
> the rotor. like no quench at all. so back to 4 flying. am i way off or is 
> this a impedance problem on the LV side of pole XFR? BTW - i get nothing 
> but 60 cycle hum or saturation using 220 VAC RMS across the LV windings. 
> yet if i hook up my 220 VAC RMS with one leg on the CT or hooking it up 
> like 110 VAC RMS, i get much better performance. for those interested, i 
> was using a 1256 variac as voltage control and a 1156D as phase ajustment. 
> Now i have put a 3-stack 60 amp inline current limit. i first put 220 
> across it and turned the wipers till i was pulling 40 amp. then put it in 
> series. it is still only a 3 to 4 foot streamer. with my PT's, i can get 2 
> -3 streamers 6 to 7 foot long. 
> 
> Thoughts? 
> Suggestings? 
> Ideas? 
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