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RE: usable potential transformers? (fwd)



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Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 01:09:36 +0000
From: David Rieben <drieben@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: drieben@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: usable potential transformers? (fwd)

Hi Rich,

It sounds like you just have a laser power supply transformer ;^)
Obvioulsy it's designed for its primary input to be placed across
two 120 volt phases, which will yield 208 volts (120 x sq.rt. of 3)
Potential transformers are generally made to measure a known 
fraction or ratio of a primary line voltage since standard instru-
mentation cannot withstand the multiple kVs of primary line
voltages. In every case that I've seen, the standard secondary
instumentation voltage output (input for us) for all potential trans-
formers (PTs) is 120 volts. PTs' are classified by their primary/
secondary turn ratios: for example, a 60:1 PT is designed for a
7200 volt input and of course a 120 volt output, a 120:1 PT is 
designed for a 14,400 volt input and a 120 volt output, and so on.
Also, as someone else has already pointed out, most PTs have a 
pretty low kVA/mass ratio since they are designed with relatively
large cores to achieve very precise voltage regulation for a wide
range of loads.

David Rieben

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From: "Tesla list" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> 

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> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 17:21:57 -0500 
> From: Rich & DJ 
> To: 'Tesla list' 
> Subject: RE: usable potential transformers? (fwd) 
> 
> I am asking for a little help in understanding. I am not an electrician or 
> EE. I guess I spoke out of turn about 208v. A transformer I have on a coil 
> is 13Kv at 1.9Kva with a 208Vac input, it is from a laser. I remember when I 
> was working some of the computer rooms were had 208v. I thought it was used 
> more often. 
> Rich from the middle of Missouri. 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Tesla list [mailto:tesla@xxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 4:32 PM 
> To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx 
> Subject: RE: usable potential transformers? (fwd) 
> 
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> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 13:54:58 -0700 (PDT) 
> From: Yurtle Turtle 
> To: Tesla list 
> Subject: RE: usable potential transformers? (fwd) 
> 
> In my industry, most everything is 480. We consider 
> 208 a bastard, that is pretty much useless for large 
> motors. Over 500 - 600 hp, we use 4,160. 
> 
> Adam 
> 
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> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- 
> > Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 19:57:06 -0500 
> > From: Rich & DJ 
> > To: 'Tesla list' 
> > Subject: RE: usable potential transformers? (fwd) 
> > 
> > Are you sure it is not 208V input, that is a 
> > standard voltage for industrial 
> > transformers. My PT transformer is 208 input. 
> > Rich 
> > 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: Tesla list [mailto:tesla@xxxxxxxxxx] 
> > Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 12:16 PM 
> > To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx 
> > Subject: RE: usable potential transformers? (fwd) 
> > 
> > 
> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- 
> > Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 09:37:21 -0700 (PDT) 
> > From: J. Aaron Holmes 
> > To: Tesla list 
> > Subject: RE: usable potential transformers? (fwd) 
> > 
> > Yeah, hard to read. I think the VA is 1750. At 
> > least, I can't think of what else that number would 
> > represent... 
> > 
> > Aaron, N7OE 
> > 
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> > > Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 09:03:52 -0700 
> > > From: Jim Mora 
> > > To: 'Tesla list' 
> > > Subject: RE: usable potential transformers? (fwd) 
> > > 
> > > Hi All, 
> > > 
> > > Yes, I was looking at (1) of these, though $'s are 
> > > tight now. I have put in 
> > > a request to the seller find out the VA rating 
> > since 
> > > the plate is 
> > > unreadable. I am assuming (always dangerous) that 
> > > the Pot xformer is 
> > > removable from the apparent stand. It would be 
> > nice 
> > > to go up to this voltage 
> > > but quenching even on a 17" rotor, may become an 
> > > issue?? 
> > > 
> > > Thoughts? 
> > > 
> > > Long arcs, 
> > > Jim Mora 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message----- 
> > > From: Tesla list [mailto:tesla@xxxxxxxxxx] 
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 7:01 AM 
> > > To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx 
> > > Subject: usable potential transformers? (fwd) 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- 
> > > Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 08:41:00 -0400 
> > > From: Dave Goodfellow 
> > > To: Tesla list 
> > > Subject: usable potential transformers? 
> > > 
> > > On ebay now Item number: 220125509946 
> > > Looks like 25000 to 120, but it is hard to see the 
> > > plate. 
> > > 
> > > Dave Goodfellow 
> > > 
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